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1080 30p motion blur on export
Posted by Rob Lagerstrom on January 19, 2010 at 8:21 pmCamera: Sony EX1
NLE: PPro CS4
I am new to shooting on HD, but 20+ years in the business. I shot my first job, a talking head, at the recommended (Vortex Media DVD) 1080 30p 35mbs HQ.
I have spent all morning trying to export to just about every imaginable codec, frame rate, etc. 95% of them show exaggerated motion blur. I have tried 29.97, 30, 60 fps
I have tried many flavors and sizes of H.264, QT, FLV, F4V. I have even tried interlacing, but of course, that looked even worse. Premiere even has pre-sets for You Tube widescreen HQ. The motion blur is very pronounced. The footage is just a talking head shot using a tripod locked down.
The footage looks great when viewed within Premiere or output to a 1080p LCD monitor using a Black Magic Intensity Pro card.Any help appreciated,
Rob
Rob Lagerstrom replied 16 years, 3 months ago 2 Members · 8 Replies -
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Danny Winn
January 20, 2010 at 4:27 amWow,
I shoot 1080 30p exclusivly on my Canon XH A1s and I’ve never had that problem.
2 things, are you sure you captured at 1080-30p? and second, does the preview look fine before you export it?
I export all my footage as Mpeg 2 with the preset export setting of “HDTV 1080 30p”. You can see what this setting should look like at the link below.
youtube.com/DannyWinnVideo
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Rob Lagerstrom
January 20, 2010 at 2:33 pmThank you very much for responding and trying to help.
This is a clip’s properties, so yes, I shot at 1080 30p. I will also state that I had the shutter on at 1/60 sec.
Note: The YouTube link you provided was “broken”. I tried searching YouTube for “Danny Winn” and got a bunch of clips about Danny winn the No Credit Reports TV commercial actor.Type: XDCAM-EX Movie
File Size: 412.5 MB
Image Size: 1920 x 1080
Pixel Depth: 32
Frame Rate: 29.97
Source Audio Format: 48000 Hz – 16 bit – Stereo
Project Audio Format: 48000 Hz – 32 bit floating point – Stereo
Total Duration: 00;01;34;20
Average Data Rate: 4.4 MB / second
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.0XDCAM EX non-temporal metadata:
VideoFormat:
VideoRecPort:
port=DIRECTVideoFrame:
captureFps=29.97p
formatFps=29.97p
recFps=29.97
videoCodec=MPEG2HD35_1920_1080_MP@HLYES! I did an export using your specs and it looks correct. No motion blur. It does have a little stutter but it is far superior to anything else I have tried.
Note: In my CS4 MPEG2 export presets there was none that was specifically (HDTV 1080 30p). I used MPEG2 720×480 FPS 30 Quality 4
I did a screen grab of the Adobe Media Encoder settings and posted it on Flikr here https://www.flickr.com/photos/rob_lager/4289994005/I really, really appreciate your help. Is there anyway I could pay you to talk to me about more details. Like, I need to know how to convert this project to DVD. I also took the MPEGE2 file, put it on the project’s timeline and used it to output it to a YouTube preset, and it looks far better than exporting the original footage directly to this preset. Does this mean I need to convert my finished project to an MPEG2 file first, then start a new sequence to export for different uses?
Rob
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Danny Winn
January 20, 2010 at 7:52 pmHey Rob,
What I meant was HDTV 1080p 29.97 High Quality preset (Cameras read 30fps but it’s actually 29.97, same thing) So when you here 30 it’s always 29.97.
It will be a little strobey, that’s what gives it that more movie look, 24fps more so.
Unless your file is larger than 1 gig for youtube, just load the Mpeg2 file to youtube instead of the youtube preset, that’s what I do.
I would always output as Mpeg2 and then write to dvd using that file in any DVD writing program.
This is definitly my link, just copy and paste into browser:
youtube.com/dannywinnvideoLet me know if you have anymore questions, no need to pay;)
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Rob Lagerstrom
January 20, 2010 at 11:29 pmYes! Juicy and delicious!
You have saved my cookies.
The video is a bit strobey but sharp and free of motion blur artifacts.
I am in the process of uploading a clip to youtube to see if it looks as good as your videos. I am assuming that by uploading the 1920×1280 file youtube will render it as HQ automatically? According to the youtube help files this is so.I also exported a test clip to MPEG2-DVD and burned a disc. I was hoping that by shooting in HD the SD d-conversion would still look better than a SD original. But, it looks about the same though I do see better dynamic contrast. I did get a full 16:9 image so that alone was worth wasting all that HD quality and HD storage space.
Your link was correct, I only had to add “www.” I enjoyed watching your videos.
I guess it is a 2 step edit/export process. 1. export to MPEG2 2. load MPEG2 clips into new timeline then export to desired flavor (H.264, FLV, QT, etc.)
You are the man,
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Danny Winn
January 21, 2010 at 3:45 amHey Rob,
Glad it worked man.
I’m a little confused though when you say “I guess it is a 2 step edit/export process. 1. export to MPEG2 2. load MPEG2 clips into new timeline then export to desired flavor (H.264, FLV, QT, etc.)”
When I’m done editing the final video and export it as an Mpeg2, that’s the Mpeg2 I upload to youtube providing it’s under the 1 gig limit.
I’m not sure why you would add it to another timeline and re-export (unless the mpeg is too big like I explained) Please explain why you have to do that.
Glad it works man!
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Rob Lagerstrom
January 21, 2010 at 1:47 pmI am thinking I would need to put the MPEG2 back on a timeline if I want to create other flavors like, MPEG-DVD, FLV/F4V, QT, other sizes of H.264.
I know there are other third party apps that do media conversions, in fact I have a couple, but Adobe media encoder does them all. all I have to do is make dupes of the queue and change the settings.
BTW: The sample clip I uploaded to youtube directly from the MPEG2 (as per your method) looks great. It took a long time for youtube to render it as HD. I also use Vimeo. They have faster render times. I signed up for the $59.95 yearly account. Now I have a 5 gig weekly limit and can create albums and groups. I can create a private album for my clients eyes only.
Do you have a better workflow than what I described?
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Danny Winn
January 21, 2010 at 2:28 pm“Do you have a better workflow than what I described?”
Yeah, instead of re-adding the Mpeg2 into the timeline and exporting a different format, I would just render any other format directly from the original project.
As I said, I always upload my Mpeg2’s, but if you do need some smaller or different file type for some reason it’s best if you can just export that directly from the original project like you did with the Mpeg2. Even though the Mpeg2 looks great it’s still a compressed file. So it’s always best to export any format from the original project unless there is a file type that Media Encoder can’t export directly from the original project, or you’re using some third party file converter.
Does that make sense?
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Rob Lagerstrom
January 23, 2010 at 10:13 pmDo you have a better workflow than what I described?”
“Yeah, instead of re-adding the Mpeg2 into the timeline and exporting a different format, I would just render any other format directly from the original project.
As I said, I always upload my Mpeg2’s, but if you do need some smaller or different file type for some reason it’s best if you can just export that directly from the original project like you did with the Mpeg2. Even though the Mpeg2 looks great it’s still a compressed file. So it’s always best to export any format from the original project unless there is a file type that Media Encoder can’t export directly from the original project, or you’re using some third party file converter.
Does that make sense?”
Yes it makes sense, but it brings me back to my original question: When I export using Adobe media encoder in any format except MPEG2 I get extreme motion blur. That is why I assumed I need to export as a MPEG2 file first then use that file to create my other file types.
Once again, I really appreciate your help.
Rob
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