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  • exporting a HDV file??

    Posted by Dale Larsen on December 10, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    I have searched this topic but find no straight forward answer.
    I am working in CS4. I have a project shot on a sony XDcam.

    my delivery requirements are HDV 1080 60i, on a drive!

    my research tells me that Premier Pro cannot do this. Output to a HDV deck, yes. But to a drive, no. I find this hard to accept but…

    are there any work arounds for this problem?

    to make matters even more irritating, the DVD authoring outfit is Mac based and needs my file in quicktime. (mov) prefferrably apple ProRes.

    that is not going to happen cause Apple ProRes is only in FCP.

    non the less, how can I export a .mov file with quality, for the DVD authoring people?

    when I export my HD XDcam timeline and choose quicktime/ DV/dvcpro ntsc, in media encoder, the system just adds the green checkmark to say “I am done!” but there is a 0kb file, not to mention it took a nanosecond to output a 2 hour project.
    I doesn’t even try!

    any suggestions would be appreciated. (short of buying an 8 core intell mac)

    I find it hard to accept that Premier Pro does not have a path to HDV and quality DVD authoring, regardless of the authoring platform.
    thanks
    Dale

    Joseph Donnelly replied 16 years, 4 months ago 3 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Mike Cohen

    December 11, 2009 at 2:43 am

    Fastest workaround would be to copy and paste your content to a HDV 1080i Sequence, then export to HDV tape via firewire. It will render of course, but then you have a HDV master. This assume you have a HDV camera or deck.

    Then capture the HDV tape to an MPG file via firewire. There is your HDV file.

    For DVD – do they need NTSC SD MPEG-2, presumably 16:9? Export the file from the HDV timeline – should look good.

    However is the source XDCAM footage 1080i or 1080p? If it is progressive, then you could have issues with the MPEG-2 file, and for that matter with the HDV master, as that will be 1080i.

    Can’t offer a ProRes solution.

    Mike Cohen

  • Dale Larsen

    December 11, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    thanks Mike,
    I will give that a try.
    I hate to keep going down generations but
    I suppose things are “lossless” in this digital environment.

    the DVD author wants to do the conversion to Mpeg-2. he just wants a mov file. (he is mac) I am considering laying off to tape and encode back to my mac to generate the mov file, again assuming things are lossless.
    Dale

  • Joseph Donnelly

    December 11, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    Laying off to tape is probably the best way considering your stipulations. I’ve found a work-around with some of my clients by using the Avid DnxHD codec for QT which is comparable to ProRes (and also free and non-proprietary), but assuming you need a full-res copy of the project and that it’s not simply being transcoded in the end to SD DVD, to tape is probably the best solution.

    Joseph Donnelly
    Editor

  • Dale Larsen

    December 12, 2009 at 1:16 am

    Thanks guys,
    I have dusted off my Decks and will give it a whirl.

    In the mean time, I did try converting my HD timeline to SD widescreen using AME – microsofts AVI at the standard dv/dvcpro ntsc setting.

    took that into my Final Cut and dumping that out as a mov in apple prores. Still rendering out. then I will compare that to the tape out and back in to mac route.
    I will post my results.

    Why did I not just edit in the Mac, you are asking? (probably)

    the render times from HD time lines is 4 times faster in the PC than in my mac.
    Can’t afford a new mac. Didn’t think I needed one until this project came up.

    Dale

  • Mike Cohen

    December 12, 2009 at 4:49 am

    If you convert from XDCAM to a HDV export to tape, you are downgrading slightly, but then to recapture the HDV to a file is lossless, if you will.

    I read today that MPEG Streamclip may be able to convert to ProRes

    Mike Cohen

  • Joseph Donnelly

    December 12, 2009 at 8:10 am

    I’m not sure about Streamclip: I just worked on a project where they wanted ProRes but as of the end of November there was no way of encoding it in a Windows environment.

    It seems that as other NLEs come out and gain market share, Apple does the obvious to retain business: develop an assload of proprietary formats that you can only use on their systems.

    Joseph Donnelly
    Editor

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