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  • Overhead Basketball Scoreboard

    Posted by Chad Mayeux on February 23, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    A coworker and I are in the middle of post production of a High School Basketball Tournament that had 16 games. We are adding graphics, and other things to jazz it up and look like it was shot live. We have an overhead scoreboard with team names and period etc. but the problem is finding an efficient way to update to score.

    We have both Mac and PC platforms and in Final Cut on the Mac you can create a title slide with the score, and then razor it when another goal is made and edit the new cut clip to the new score. This process does not effect the previous clip and makes it very easy to update the score without having hundreds of titles for each score change.

    However, when you do this in Adobe, it updates every title on the timeline with the same name. I have found that you can not make a subclip out of titles (in CS3)so my question would be, how do you do this without having to create a new title for every single score change?

    Chad Mayeux
    Metter, GA
    Pineland Technology Solutions
    Videographer/ Digital Artist

    Alan Mills replied 17 years, 2 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Jon Barrie

    February 23, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    Chad, FCP and PPro can acheive pretty much the exact same things, only they are different programs and use different codes to get things working. In PPro you will need to make a new title for each change. The way the PPro Title system works allows you to ‘update’ the original and all instances in the timeline will update immediately. Once you are aware of this system it’s far superior to the FCP one where every instance requires a single manual update.

    Here’s how to work with the Titler in PPro for your uses:
    1. Open the Title you want to use as your “template” look.
    2. While the Titler is open goto the Menus on the top of the screen
    – Title> New Title>Based on Current Title…
    3. This has created a true copy of the original where you can make your text change and then use the replace function (right click the clip you have in the timeline and choose replace with clip>from bin).

    It may seem tedious but now you have the full control of ‘updating’ if you ever need to by finding the title in the Project panel and double clicking it and changing it knowing it will change in the timeline automatically instead of needing to find it and adjust it.

    It’s a different way of doing things, and it has it’s advantages when using proxy setups (Lower third BGs especially).

    check out this video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CreeDdrWkaM

    – Jon 😉

    Jon Barrie
    aJBprods
    http://www.jonbarrie.net

  • Chad Mayeux

    February 24, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    Jon,

    Thank you very much for your response and video! However, it still does not achieve what I want to achieve. That method is perfect for lower thirds and other stuff, but we are having to change the score of a basketball game (which changes A LOT) and with final cut I can avoid having a project folder with hundreds of separate title files. Don’t get me wrong, the updating feature in Adobe is convenient and mostly logical, however, in this case it is a real pain. I am guessing though that is how it has to be. Again thanks so much for your response!

    Chad Mayeux
    Metter, GA
    Pineland Technology Solutions
    Videographer/ Digital Artist

  • Chad Mayeux

    February 26, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    Jon,

    Out of curiosity, does CS4 by chance have an option in the preferences that would let you turn the auto update feature on/off for the titler? If not, is it possible to suggest that to adobe in hopes that they would include such a feature in CS5?

    Chad Mayeux
    Metter, GA
    Pineland Technology Solutions
    Videographer/ Digital Artist

  • Alan Mills

    March 3, 2009 at 12:54 pm

    Hi,

    I’ve done a few local basketball games over here in the UK and pondered this exact question. I even tried a seperate camera pointing at the live scoreboard and ensured it was sync’d in and cropped. OK but not quite what I was after. The solution I intend to try next is to create an After Effects composition for my lower/upper third scoreboard and have each of the scoreboard items (scores, fouls, timouts etc) linked to slider controls that I can simply keyframe as the video plays underneath. Will need rendering but it’ll get what you/I want I reckon.

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