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Render Settings for HDV 1440×1080
This may be an easy question, but I can’t seem to figure it out.
If I’m rendering a clip in After Effects in an HDV 1440×1080, what render settings (i.e., compression option) would I use so won’t also have to render the clip(s) again in a Premiere timeline?
I can get it to work for a DV clip rendered in AE, but I’m new to the HDV world.
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James Orlowski
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I think you will need the Main Concept HD plug-in for Premiere that has Smart Rendering to avoid a rerender. Mpeg 2 is not like DV.
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Really? If Premiere needs third-party support to playback an HDV, then what is the file format that Premiere natively render its renders in?
Can’t I just render out of AE in whatever format Premiere’s renders are in?
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James Orlowski
RYNO Production, Inc.
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Premiere’s preview files are not used in any export in CS3.
Premiere does not convert HDV but uses horsepower to play the timeline…minimum is 2.4 Core Duo. Main Concept has a way to preview with lower horse power, but does not convert to an intermediate format like Cineform. -
I understand. Is that why I’m still able to play without problems a “red line” timeline clip in Premiere Pro CS3 without rendering?
I have a quad core Xeon 2.0 GHz. I guess that’s adequate to do so without rendering.
So, trying different codec/compression combinations in AE trying to “hit” the right one is futile on my part?
On a side note, why in an HDV Premiere project is the Export to Tape… function disabled? How would you output a finished HDV project BACK to tape?
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James Orlowski
RYNO Production, Inc.
http://www.rynoproduction.com
800-860-7966 -
HDV really is a tricky format for editing. It’s just soooo compressed and CS3 actually won’t allow you to EXPORT an HDV file. The best thing for you to do coming from AE is to export a quicktime at 1920×1080 pixels which is the full raster for HD. I would use the ANIMATION compressor at FULL quality or the SORENSEN 3 compressor at FULL quality. Premier WILL correctly interpret this footage and allow you to place it on the timeline. However then you will get a red bar meaning you need to render it. Do the render and you’ll be all set! I have actually done all this and even had an alpha channel with my AE export and the Quicktime movie imported fine and keyed over my timeline beautifully!
By way of explanation HDV is 1440×1080 because the format uses a 1.33 pixel aspect ratio. This means that it stretches each pixel out horizontally by a factor of 1.33. If you multiply 1.3 by 1440 you get roughly 1920 so your 1440×1080 image ends up filling a 16:9 screen.
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Great explanation. Thanks for the information.
Any idea why Premiere won’t let you Export to Tape an HDV project? If that’s disabled, how would you put back on tape a completed HDV project?
(‘m new to the HDV world; I mostly work in SD and DV).
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James Orlowski
RYNO Production, Inc.
http://www.rynoproduction.com
800-860-7966 -
Well that’s puzzling to me. What version of Premiere are you using? Is it CS3? I’m also new to HDV but have done three projects successfully so far. Just checking to make sure that you definitely opened an HDV project to begin with and not an XDCAM project or something? If it’s HDV then the next thing I would try would be to make sure that your HDV camcorder is correctly connected and turned on. Typically when that option is greyed out it means that it has lost connection to the camera. Also is the camera in VCR mode or CAM mode. It MUST be in VCR mode. If all that checks out then try changing the communications method in the DV DEVICE CONTROL area of your preferences. Try like ALT2 or ALT3 or even pick the manufacturer and model of your camera if it’s present. Finally depending on how long your timeline is be prepared for a long render time as Premier renders out your timeline to one single stream of HDV material to be sent to your camcorder. My half hour shows took HOURS! You’ll see a progress bar that moves so slow you’d swear the computer had locked up. Be patient and walk away! Take a break!
Hope that helps!
Nate
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It’s CS3 running on Mac OSX. Even in the Premiere HDV preset, it says “Export to tape is not supported.”
Perhaps the OSX version doesn’t support this function. Odd.
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James Orlowski
RYNO Production, Inc.
http://www.rynoproduction.com
800-860-7966 -
Well I’m just ASTOUNDED! I work in the PC realm and I just don’t understand why that feature would not be there! Can anyone else shed any light here?
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I find that odd, too.
I work on a PC running CS3 at work, and when I checked this morning on my work PC, the preset said nothing about Export to Tape being unavailable.
Now, I’m sure on my Mac at home running CS3 that Export to Tape was unavailable in any HDV project.
I will check again for sure when I get home tonight, however.
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James Orlowski
RYNO Production, Inc.
http://www.rynoproduction.com
800-860-7966
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