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problems fading to black
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Fading to black is resulting in poor quality with horizontal bands through it on the final DVD. The rest is fine. This happens with various authoring programs, so it must be a Premier problem. I have tried using a black JPEG (as opposed to fading to transparency) but still the same result. I am rendering to avi files which go into the authoring program. Funny thing, though, when I make a disc direct from premier it is fine. Trouble is, usually I want menus so I cant do this often, it was just that the one I am referring to was just a three minute job so no menu needed. I looked at Adobe help and it said that you could export to DVD and use the data for other authoring programs. Maybe this would be the answer, but I cant find a ‘save to hard drive’ option under export to DVD. Authoring programs tend to have this, so is it possible to do this from premier? Is avi the best way to render for DVD production? I do need the descent quality here. I have tried messing about with the interlacing stuff but not helping. Any ideas welcome. I am noit that technical so pleae dont tell me off for not giving enough info. Just ask specific if you need to know more. Please please, PLEASE … if you must direct me to a website, just tell me what to do when I get there and which part to look at. Thanks so much
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9 Replies
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This could be caused by a few of things. The most likely is heavy compression, but it could also be a bad quality compressor. The fact that it doesn’t happen when you export from Premiere pretty much says it all. Most authoring appps such as Nero really don’t do a good job in many cases.
Also, what intermediate codec are you using before going to the other application? it should be uncompressed, or you will be causing additional compression.
Vince
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If you export to DV AVI and bring it back into the project, does it look OK? If so, it is certainly whatever you are using to compress for DVD.
If the AVI is bad, then you might want to export to MPEG2-DVD from Premiere Pro and use that in the authoring program.
Steven
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thanks so much. I am sorry if I do not know what compressor I am using. As far as I know, this is done automatically by the authoring program. I export the movie from premiere into full PAL DV, same as format I capture it in. Other person said compress to MPEG2. I am happy to try this but will I lose quality. I do need to keep the quality as best as I can. I have used adobe encore and had the same problem, so we cant blame it on a bad cheapo dvd authoring program
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thanks for kind response. I do not know because I am partially sighted I doubt if I could see the result inside premieres small low quality window. I can see it on the proper tv screddn. I am happy to try your MPEG2 idea, but will I lose quality? I do want the final thing to be proper standard. I make DVDs for play ining in players and watching on tv (as opposed to things for pc playback and internet stuff). Basically I film amateur dramatics, and people like to buy the DVDs. But if the quality is not similar to that of a profeesional (as in ‘bought in a shop’ they will probably complain! Premier does a great job, except for this problem of course!!
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Sorry, I have just checked my Premiere and I cant find a save as MPEG-2 option. There is just DV, quicktime, Gif and a few other wierd things, but no MPEG anything!!
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i dnt know what codec really means, sorry. But I export to full DV cos I thought this would be best quality. It says on help that you can export to DVD but use the file for other applications, which I would LOVE to do, so compression is done by premiere. But I cant find an option saying anything like ‘save to hard drive’ when I look at the export to DVD
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Do not use File Export Movie, use the Adobe Media Encoder. Export Movie is really only used for exporting to DV AVI. MPEG amd WMV and MOV are exported the the Adobe Media Encoder.
And no, exporting to MPEG2-DVD in Premiere Pro would be the same as doing it in Encore, except you don’t have to take the middle step of exporting to DV AVI.
Steven
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Thanks so much, i think your idea will work but just one more question and I am really there! Firstly, I tried doing the MPEG2 DVD and putting into authoring along with the avi version to compare. Indeed, the MPEG2 DVD had a proper black so thanks so much. The question is this: can I change the compression level with premiere if I render to MPEG2 DVD? I ask because most of my projects are are over an hour (but not more than two). Authoring programs let you choose options so that you can fit the project on a disc, but I am scared that doing your way for a two hour job will give me a ‘not enough space’ on the authoring program. Or, is it okay to recompress the MPEG2 DVD in the authoring program, or is there a specific setting in premier that I should use? I know there is a big list of PAL options saying hi and lo quality and 1 pass 2 pass etc. I know there is a slight quality loss for two hours in any case, but I have always been more than happy before (apart from the problem that I came on here with in the first place). I do need to know this, but your solution looks like it will work in theory, so thanks again.
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You need to use a bitrate calculator to estimate what data rate you can use. You may find that you need to experiment with your footage to get it down to 4GB (leaving room for the menus).
Start here: https://www.videohelp.com/calc.htm
Depending on your authoring program, you may actually be OK letting it recompress for you.
Steven
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