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  • A better reverb plugin

    Posted by Eric Barker on December 6, 2007 at 8:32 pm

    Premiere’s reverb plugin… frankly… blows. It’s one of the worst I’ve ever heard, even worse than the stock Pro Tools reverb, version 1. I’m used to working in Digital Performer, whose default reverb, “eVerb”, is at least “decent.”

    Now, as a video NLI, I don’t expect Premiere to have as flexible audio plugins as a DAW would have, but the reverb plugin is just horrific. I guess it would be alright for doing spacy, ambient stuff, but for just small touches of reflection to “spacialize” a voiceover, or thicken the sound a bit, it’s impossible. Are there any third party plugins out there that do a better job?

    I seriously have MADE better reverb modules using Max/MSP then the one they supplied with the program… that’s pretty sad.

    Perry Cheng replied 18 years, 7 months ago 5 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Jon Barrie

    December 7, 2007 at 12:46 am

    Do you have Soundbooth or Audition?
    – Jon

  • Eric Barker

    December 7, 2007 at 1:50 am

    If I had asked about other software, I would have asked about other software. I have Audition, I have MOTU Digital Performer, I have Avid Pro Tools… but it’s silly and complicates the workflow to have to load up and edit in every little thing in a different program. This is the second time this week I’ve gotten a response like this, and I’m getting exasperated.

    Must I remind everyone that NLEs supply the bear-bones to do most things, but not the means to do a lot of them in detail? That meas that if I simply need a bit of reverb on a voiceover (but nothing extravigent), it’s much more efficient to do it right within the NLE, and not switch around.

    This is the same with Greenscreening, I shouldn’t have to switch over to after effects just to do a simple greenscreening job. Why does Adobe take the time to supply shitty reverb and greenscreening plugins, if the answer is “just do it in another program.”

    So, I’ll ask again, “what is a good reverb PLUGIN for Premiere?”

  • Blast1

    December 7, 2007 at 6:30 am

    [Prime Mover] “it’s silly and complicates the workflow to have to load up and edit in every little thing in a different program.”
    If Adobe tried to load everything everyone wanted Ppro would look like a Rube Goldberg cartoon, you can try by using the form below
    https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform
    In the meantime while waiting while Adobe cogitates over including your request you could try one of the various VST plugins available on the market, personally I would rather have a NLE which was able to intergrate with other modules/apps than have a major piece of bloatware/bugware that did everything.

  • Ross Bradshaw

    December 7, 2007 at 1:07 pm

    It seems to me Prime Mover that in time it takes you to complain about what PP can’t do you would have loaded the other apps and done the work needed. Jon asked about soundbooth becase you can render and replace files straight into PP.Maybe instead of attacking somebody that trying to help you, you should hear what they have to say.

    As for the greenscreen. I recently had to key 100 interviews for an award night and I had didn’t have AE on the laptop so I spent my time getting the best key I possibly could in PP (which turned out to be damn good) when I was happy with the key I saved it as a preset and used it for the other 99 interviews (altering it slightly when needed).

    There are always ways around problems if you work on them.

  • Perry Cheng

    December 7, 2007 at 9:14 pm

    Ross,
    Would you mind sharing, though, how to accomplish the best results with keying in Premiere alone, not bringing it to AE or Serious Magic…

    Perry

  • Jon Barrie

    December 7, 2007 at 11:21 pm

    I’m currently working on a Tutorial about using PPro to make the best possible key using track matting. Same as AE would to pull most detail out of a key. Basically you need to make a matte (black and white) version of what is alpha (Black) and what will be opaque (white) with a combination of Chroma Key and Non red Key – select the mask only.
    Then you need to make a copy of the original clip and lay it under the matte version. Apply the track matte effect on bottom layer (original) and set the matte layer to the (B&W) matte.
    Teaking colour balance is done on the original and you have a pretty clean key.
    – Jon 🙂

  • Ross Bradshaw

    December 8, 2007 at 3:50 pm

    I think Perry that Jon is right on the money here and his tutorial will be a far better explanation than if I try to explain it in text.

    As far as know what Jon explained is how Lucas films did keying for the Star Wars films ( which might look dated now but is a great way to key)

    I myself look forward to your tutorial Jon

    Take it easy

  • Perry Cheng

    December 8, 2007 at 8:20 pm

    Would your tutorial be able to make avaiable for the public? I would be the first to view.

    Perry

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