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output the program monitor to a second display
I’m running PP 2.0 with Cineform Aspect HD on a HP Pavilion dv8000 with a NVidia GeForce 7400 graphics card with 512 of memory. Does anyone know how to configure settings to output the program monitor to a second monitor? I tried the obvious which is click the box within the program settings of Aspect HD to enable the output of a second monitor but no luck. The VGA output displays a second desktop at 1280×720 just fine, but no program monitor output. Thanks for anyone’s help! Larry
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Larry,
This relates to your display settings more than any adjustments within the Adobe family applications.
I suggest you right-click on a blank area of your desktop, choose “Properties”, then click on the “Settings” tab on the far right.
From there, you should have some options to review. If you are using Win XP Pro (which I am assuming is the case here), you should have two check boxes in the bottom left-hand corner which read “Use this device as the primary monitor” and one below it that reads “Extend my Windows desktop onto this monitor”.
Both checkboxes should be selected (and greyed out) under the Display 1 drop-down menu in the middle. When you select display 2, the “Use this device as the primary monitor” should be DE-selected, but the “Extend my Windows desktop” SHOULD be selected.
What you are doing, in effect, is stretching the width of the desktop over both monitors instead of simply replicating the main desktop twice over those displays.
Once you have this configured properly, click on APPLY and OK. You may be prompted to reboot for the changes to take effect, but this is not usually the case for newer VGA cards.
When you go into PPRO, click on the middle box at the top right of the application (the maximize button found in between the minimize (-) and the Close (X). Then, stretch PPRO over the width of both monitors by left-clicking and holding down the left mouse button on the bottom right-hand corner of PPRO (where the 3 grey diagonal lines are) and drag to cover your desktop over both displays.
This is easier to actually do than it is to describe, so have no fears in playing around with the configuration until you get it optimized for your setup. The beauty of all of this is that when you re-open PPRO for another session or a new project, it maintains the global settings and remembers your last Windows positions (most of the time, anyway!). Sometimes you may have to reset this full width again, especially if you accidently or purposely reduce PPRO to a single monitor width.
FYI, you will have to re-size all of your various applications you wish to stretch across two displays (such as AE, Audition, Encore, Photoshop, etc.) Generally speaking, I do this for most of my applications so that I have a “Preview” monitor and a “Widgets” monitor (all of the various tools and auxillary panels, etc.).
Good luck, I hope this works for you! If you have any further questions, feel free to e-mail me anytime and I will gladly assist you.
Scot Sheely
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Thanks Scot but I don’t want to stretch my desktop. I know how to do that. I want to drive a second monitor or projector with just the output of the program monitor so I can see it up bigger. Thanks! Larry
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This is exactly what I am advocating. To do that, you need to stretch your display across two or more monitors, then build a custom workspace in PPRO, with the monitor full-size (or nearly so) in your main display.
This is the only way to achieve this, shy of buying a Matrox Parhelia card that allows for 3 displays to be used.
I have the Parhelia card, and have display 1 and 2 set for PPRO (et al), and the third display is actually a large Panasonic TV, which, with the Matrox “WYSIWYG” plug-in, pipes out the main monitor display directly to the TV itself.
This is in addition to the PPRO monitor, which I often keep at a much smaller screen, but still needds to be present in order for this to work.
Incidently, this TV as a 3rd monitor effect also works with AE, PS, Winamp, PowerDVD and several other video-related applications.
To achieve what you are looking for with your current display card (which is a very good one, IMO!), you will have to follow the steps I outlined in my previous post. At this time, there is no other available work-around I am aware of to achieve your goal.
Scot
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I forgot to mention, another possible option to pipe out the video only to a TV / broadcast monitor is to use your Firewire jack out to a camera or deck (like the DSR11, for e.g.), and then use the S-Video or composite video out and into a TV or monitor (but NOT a computer monitor, not unless you buy and expensive scan converter).
This also provides the video out to a TV, as long as the playback settings in PPRO are configured correctly.
Just select PROJECT->PROJECT SETTINGS->GENERAL->PLAYBACK SETTINGS and choose “PLAYBACK ON DV HARDWARE AND DESKTOP” under the REAL-TIME PLAYBACK section in the middle of that window. Also, make sure the checkbox at the top that says “PLAY VIDEO ON DV HARDWARE” is selected as well for this to work.
Of course, this is just a workaround, but it is kind of cool. I have noticed that the video is not of the same quality as what is being reviewed from PPRO. It tends to be a bit more pixelated (smeared looking) than the final output, but it is another valid way to achieve this effect if you are interested in doing so.
So, to recap, you have 3 choices:
1) Stretch your desktop as previously suggested (best choice)
2) Buy a Parhelia VGA, configure 3rd monitor to be a TV
3) Use the DV hardware out function in PPRO in conjunction with your camera or deck and pipe out via firewire to S-VIDEO or composite out to the TV.Hope that helps! FYI, I am a computer tech and videographer with over 30 years experience in each of those respective fields, and have built and configured many hundreds of NLE systems, so I really do know what I am talking about concerning this subject. It comes up all of the time during the basic setup and configuration of PPRO.
Scot
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[Larry1] “I want to drive a second monitor or projector with just the output of the program monitor”
You will have to undock the program monitor and drag it over to the second monitor, and then drag the borders to size it to the size you want, when you exceed the native size of the of the video in the monitor window the video will start degrading, you can’t just vector the program monitor video to the second monitor
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Scot- Thanks for your help and suggestions. I have the configuration already in place to pipe the output through my DV-Cam deck to a monitor. That works fine for DV. What I’m trying to do is output the program monitor feed to another flat screen or projector for HDV. Using Aspect HD, there is an option to output the program monitor to another video source in playback settings, but it won’t find my VGA out on my HP. I can drag the program monitor to a second monitor fine, but I’m trying to get full screen playback of the program monitor to the VGA out editing HDV, not DV. I suspect my video card cannot handle it but I have read somewhere that it’s possible. Larry
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Scot- I solved it. You must enable video overlay function in the advanced NVidea settings and then select full screen mode. Now I have a full screen output of the program monitor from my VGA out to an InFocus HD projector and it’s fantastic. Now I can edit HDV within PP 2.0 using the Aspect HD plug in and see it up big instead of just on the program monitor on the desktop. This is very important to editors who are confined to seeing just the program output on the small window on their desktop while editing HDV. I’m so happy. Add this to your 30 years of experience. I’m sure it will come up with other users. Thanks again for your help. With your input and Cineforms, we solved it. Larry
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Blast1- my reply to Scot Scot- I solved it. You must enable video overlay function in the advanced NVidea settings and then select full screen mode. Now I have a full screen output of the program monitor from my VGA out to an InFocus HD projector and it’s fantastic. Now I can edit HDV within PP 2.0 using the Aspect HD plug in and see it up big instead of just on the program monitor on the desktop. This is very important to editors who are confined to seeing just the program output on the small window on their desktop while editing HDV. I’m so happy. Add this to your 30 years of experience. I’m sure it will come up with other users. Thanks again for your help. With your input and Cineforms, we solved it. Larry
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Excellent! Yep, this is a new one for me, too. This definitely gets filed in the “it CAN be done” category concerning nVidia’s cards.
I am glad you were able to resolve this, and thanks again for sharing the solution here for all to see.
That’s what makes this community strong, IMHO. The dissemination of such disparate minutia (those are all of the “hundred dollar words” I have on my vocabulary list today, LoL!).
See you here on the forums.
Peace!
Scot
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How do I undock the monitor window? Can I split the scrubber window from the playback window within the monitor window?
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