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  • Jerky Title Roll

    Posted by Kevin Thorp on February 22, 2007 at 10:15 pm

    I have a 40-line closing credits title, created with the Title roll feature. It’s about 20 seconds long. The WMVs I used to create played back smoothly, but the last 5 or 6 times I’ve saved a video & played back the credits roll up erratically. They’ll be smooth for a few seconds, hang for a moment then jerk up suddenly. This repeats a few times until the video ends. The entire video is only 5Mb so I don’t think it is overwhelming my computer’s resources.

    Any suggestions?

    Kevin Thorp replied 19 years, 2 months ago 4 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Aanarav Sareen

    February 24, 2007 at 2:27 am

    Do you have the credit ‘ease-in’ and ‘ease-out’ options selected? If so, what happens if you get rid of them? Also, what happens when you export your project as an AVI file, rather than a WMV?

    Aanarav Sareen
    premiere@asvideoproductions.com

    https://www.asvideoproductions.com/techtalk

  • Ron Moody

    February 26, 2007 at 5:47 pm

    I had a similar problem but haven’t yet found a solution. Adobe (after going through all the various things they said to try) said I apparently have a hardware problem.

    I don’t know that I agree since I finally gave up and went back to Premiere 1.5 and have been using that to meet my deadlines since that date, without complaint.

    I don’t mean to muddy the waters but I guess you’re getting the same frustration from me that I had with tech support. I think the problem may be with hardware acceleration in PPro 2. I haven’t been able to find a way around the issue so far (it’s been several months).

    I’ll keep my eyes on this topic however. Maybe someone will come through for you.

    PS I almost forgot. In evaluating the problem, it seemed to be specific to any overlaid title (the underlying video became jerky) but was most noticible on scrolling titles, which behaved exactly as you described.

    It’s nice to know I’m not alone.

    Ron from Maui
    ronmoody@yahoo.com

  • Kevin Thorp

    February 26, 2007 at 7:16 pm

    Saving as an AVI instead of a WMV solved the problem, but the file size is 70Mb vs 10Mb for the WMV. I need to keep the file size down.

    I’m experimenting with “Ease-In, Ease-Out & Pre-roll, but so far all it seems to do is change the timing of the title roll jerks.

  • Kevin Thorp

    February 26, 2007 at 7:50 pm

    I don’t know if this is a clue but the problem seems to be caused (or at least made worse) by blank lines between the 4 or 5 groups of text on my credits roll.

  • Kevin Thorp

    February 26, 2007 at 10:10 pm

    I give up!

    When I export an AVI, MPG or MOV the credits roll smoothly but when I export a WMV they roll erratically. I’ve tried fiddling with all the settings, without success.

    I need a WMV with rolling credits. I’ll just create them with another program and import them into APP.

    Maybe one day Adobe will fix this bug.

  • Vince Becquiot

    February 28, 2007 at 3:26 am

    I think the guy who told you that it was hardware related (in Premiere) was either smoking something good, and trying to get rid of you, since hardware really hasn’t anything to do with rendering, except speed…

    The WMV export is a little funky sometimes. You guys wouldn’t by any chance be exporting 24P? That’s the only time I’ve had issues there, jumpy footage, etc. The easy way out of this is basically to export to uncompressed and then go download a free copy of the Windows Media Encoder, which gives you many more options anyway…

    Vince

  • Ron Moody

    February 28, 2007 at 8:09 pm

    I don’t mean to take over this thread since I didn’t start it, but since the original poster hasn’t responded, I will.

    In my application, no, I was not using wmv or 24 frame. I was doing plain old production, as generic as it gets. One day, my computer stopped giving me clean overlays. It was most noticible on scrolls, but when you look close, you could see jerky video under all overlays (not just titles). Basically anything that had to be rendered was no longer usable.

    I re-installed PP2, did everything support said to do, until they finally told me, well, it’s not Premiere. It must be your hardware.

    That’s why, when I see the same problem cropping up elsewhere, I wonder if Adobe might catch on that they might have a problem here. It’s not just me.

    My solution; go back to version 1.5. Oh well, at least things are much better than in the ninetys when I had to chop my 29:30 show into four pieces since FAT would allow a max 1 gig file size. We’ve come a long ways.

    Maybe at some point, Premiere will be an industry leader like Photoshop, Illustrator, and AfterEffects.

    ron from maui

  • Kevin Thorp

    February 28, 2007 at 11:04 pm

    Don’t worry about taking over the thread, Ron. Any input is appreciated.

    I’m saving my WMVs at 30 frames per second – the same as the raw video footage.

    In PhotoShop I pasted the credits text into a very tall GIF (640 x 2000 pixels), then in APP set it to move verticaly over a 20 second span. Once again the AVIs & MOV I created played back fine, but in the WMV that vertical movement was jerky. The other video segments in the WMV playey back smoothly.

    I tried saving an uncompressed AVI but one of the transitions was corrupted. That’s probably solvable but my next attempt at a solution is to recreate the rolling credits in my 3D animation program & save that as an uncompressed AVI, which I’ll import into APP. I’ve had very good luck doing this.

  • Vince Becquiot

    March 1, 2007 at 3:07 am

    Yes, let us know how the Windows Media Encoder does on that particular roll. I really don’t do that many rolls, so it may be a combination of rolling speed and font size not pleasing the encoder. Actually, After Effects is pretty picky about that as well, even without a WMV export.

    Good luck,

    Vince

  • Kevin Thorp

    March 8, 2007 at 12:20 am

    As you recommended, I saved an uncompressed AVI then used Windows Media Encoder to generate the .WMV video. Worked great. Thanks Vince!

    Maybe one day Adobe will figure out how to encode WMVs properly…

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