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  • Archival Roll Call

    Posted by Ashley M. kirchner on February 8, 2007 at 7:18 pm

    So you’ve edited, gone through several variations, listened to your clients complain, made changes, and edited some more. At the end of the day, you’ve produced an awesome product (at least as far as your client is concerned) and you want to archive the project with all its assets and what not. What do you use?

    External (removable) hard drive?
    Tapes?
    Network drives (SAN/NAS)?
    Data DVD (CD? Ugh)?
    A pretty purple 1″ cube on your desk with wireless and infinite storage in some yet to be discovered liquid?

    At some point I would want to archive my projects and store them off of the computer for an undetermined period of time.

    Ashley M. kirchner replied 19 years, 3 months ago 4 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Steven L. gotz

    February 8, 2007 at 9:41 pm

    I vote for the purple cube. But until then, I use USB drives to store old projects. A SAN would be a great way to handle it as well.

    Steven
    https://www.stevengotz.com

  • Troy Murison

    February 8, 2007 at 11:48 pm

    Where can I get a purple cube? Oh, you did say yet to be discovered….

    I only archive what I have to- ie: anything that can’t be recaptured or
    isn’t already on a disc or delivery medium that I might have received from
    a client. Anything I create or that the client takes back that isn’t from
    a tape and able to be recaptured, I archive. That’s just me. Of course if
    I captured without machine control or timecode, or there were lots of TC
    breaks then I will archive that media too. Of course we usually trim the
    project first as well to cut down on storage. The BU media depends on the project-
    DVDs, bare EIDE drives, CDR, whatever it’ll fit on I guess. But here’s
    how we control it: we tell our clients that their PROJECT file is always backed-up
    safely, but ANY assets used in the project are held only for a short period
    of time, usually 2 weeks after completion. After that there are no guarantees
    UNLESS you want to pay us to archive the material to enable a complete restore
    of the project at a later date. On some jobs we also have been known
    to build in some time and expenses to archive, but that usually gets cut out
    of estimates. Many clients that go for it though end up buying drive(s) for us to
    do archive to. Then they own the drives, if they come back later for a different job
    they will sometimes blow-over older archives if they don’t foresee needing them or
    they’ll add on to a large drive until it’s full, but then deleted the oldest, etc.

    I guess my point is- build whatever method you use into your project $ if you
    always want backups or charge the client for the additional service to cover
    your costs at least and hopefully to make a little more $ too.

    -Troy Murison
    Seattle, WA

  • Troy Murison

    February 8, 2007 at 11:52 pm

    Where can I get a purple cube? Oh, you did say yet to be discovered….

    I only archive what I have to- ie: anything that can’t be recaptured or
    isn’t already on a disc or delivery medium that I might have received from
    a client. Anything I create or that the client takes back that isn’t from
    a tape and able to be recaptured, I archive. That’s just me. Of course if
    I captured without machine control or timecode, or there were lots of TC
    breaks then I will archive that media too. Of course we usually trim the
    project first as well to cut down on storage. The BU media depends on the project-
    DVDs, bare EIDE drives, CDR, whatever it’ll fit on I guess. But here’s
    how we control it: we tell our clients that their PROJECT file is always backed-up
    safely, but ANY assets used in the project are held only for a short period
    of time, usually 2 weeks after completion. After that there are no guarantees
    UNLESS you want to pay us to archive the material to enable a complete restore
    of the project at a later date. On some jobs we also have been known
    to build in some time and expenses to archive, but that usually gets cut out
    of estimates. Many clients that go for it though end up buying drive(s) for us to
    do archive to. Then they own the drives, if they come back later for a different job
    they will sometimes blow-over older archives if they don’t foresee needing them or
    they’ll add on to a large drive until it’s full, but then deleted the oldest, etc.

    I guess my point is- build whatever method you use into your project $ if you
    always want backups or charge the client for the additional service to cover
    your costs at least and hopefully to make a little more $ too.

    -Troy Murison
    Seattle, WA

  • Aanarav Sareen

    February 9, 2007 at 12:14 am

    This is my archival technique:

    a) Purchase 160gb drives for each project (costs about $40)
    b) I have an external hot-swappable enclosure, so I insert the drive into the closure.
    c) Everytime a project is finished, I export the EDITED AVI file, all the related assets, project file and batch-capture logs. All of this goes to the hard-drive.
    d) I also backup the edited content (in MPEG2, MOV, FLV and WMV) onto DVDs. This is just for easy re-compression.
    e) Once everything is put in order, I write up a document about all the assets and save it onto the hard-drive.
    f) Remove the hard-drive from the enclosure and save the hard-drive along with the tapes.

    – Aanarav

    Aanarav Sareen
    premiere@asvideoproductions.com

    https://www.asvideoproductions.com/techtalk

  • Ashley M. kirchner

    February 9, 2007 at 1:38 am

    Hey Aanarav, are those IDE or SATA drives?

  • Aanarav Sareen

    February 9, 2007 at 2:55 am

    [KirAsh4] “Hey Aanarav, are those IDE or SATA drives?”

    IDE for now. However, I will be using eSATA drives/connections in the near future.

    – Aanarav

    Aanarav Sareen
    premiere@asvideoproductions.com

    https://www.asvideoproductions.com/techtalk

  • Ashley M. kirchner

    February 9, 2007 at 7:13 pm

    [Steven L. Gotz] “A SAN would be a great way to handle it as well.”

    With the complicated setup and cost involved, I think you’ll find many users using NAS instead of SAN. Specially those small volume or hobbyists. I think…

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