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  • HD or SD ?

    Posted by Gianluca on December 28, 2006 at 4:02 pm

    Hi folks,
    I know this may not be the proper forum to post this question.. but I feel home here.
    I tried to search posts but the search engine is not working.

    I am a “creative non professional cow” and I just had my camera stolen! sigh.
    Ok.. Ima buy a new one .. but.. should I go HD or SD? I mainly use the adobe creative suite and the camera should cost $ 2k tops.
    I don’t sell my videos or stuff.. i just edit them for my personal pleasure and will soon have a HD ready lcd tv. Should I go HD? In case, should I need a different dvd player for hd footage?

    Thanks alot.

    Gian

    Gianluca replied 19 years, 4 months ago 4 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Gianluca

    December 28, 2006 at 4:08 pm

    Sorry.. i meant I use Adobe PRODUCTION studio…

  • Harm Millaard

    December 28, 2006 at 4:37 pm

    If you consider that most people buy a camera once every 3 to 5 years, possibly even only in 7 years, at least as long as they are not stolen, I would definitely opt for a HDV version. With the budget available you have a number of choices, Sony HC1, HC3, Canon HV10 and the new but hard to edit AVCHD cameras from Sony.

    You do not need to change your DVD player, but the HDV material needs to be downrezzed to SD format. However, for the future you have the best quality material available if you keep your original tapes or export to tape in HDV format.

  • Gianluca

    December 28, 2006 at 6:27 pm

    Thanks Harm,

    That is exactly what I was thinking.. I just have some concerns regarding hd -> sd conversion.. i’ve read there are some issues with it..

    Can I edit with PP2 in HDV and export a standard avi file to be used with Encore and build a regular DVD without major issues ?

  • Harm Millaard

    December 28, 2006 at 7:33 pm

    There are two approaches you can take and each one has it’s pro’s and cons.

    The first one is to capture HDV, edit, export to tape (so you have the full quality version for the future when HD-DVD or BR-DVD is readily available and the required authoring application), AND export using Adobe Media Encoder to create a MPEG2-DVD compliant stream for Encore.

    The second approach is to use the camera to down convert to SD, capture in SD, edit and export to Encore.

    The first approach allows for a tape with HDV quality and export to MPEG2-DVD quality, more or less in one go, but the down conversion in Premiere Pro is not very good, so you will sacrifice somewhat on the quality of the DVD. The second method gives better quality by using the camera to down convert, but does not allow HDV export to tape.

    I personally use the first approach. I do not find the quality of the down conversion bothersome and I prefer to be able to keep my final production on tape in full HDV quality for the future.

    All this HDV editing does require a rather capable PC, with some muscle to get anything resembling RT preview. Well, with the budget you have in mind and these camera prices around $ 1.400, you may have something to upgrade your PC as well.

    Hope this helps.

  • Gianluca

    December 28, 2006 at 7:58 pm

    Thanks .. for the easy explanation and for your time.

    I think im going for HDV .. , as you said, especially for the future.
    As for my PC, I think it has enough muscles to stand a fair fight against HD ;-).

    Thanks again for your info.

    Gian

  • Perry Cheng

    December 29, 2006 at 12:05 pm

    1st, I assume you are talking about getting a Camcorder, right? Have you Consider Sanyo HD1? or HD1a?

    Perry

  • Harm Millaard

    December 29, 2006 at 1:56 pm

    An MPEG4 720P format? If you want to have trouble editing, consider it. Also the form size is way too small for stable recording. It would never be on my short list, just as the SonyUX1 would be forgotten, due to the media.

  • Aanarav Sareen

    December 29, 2006 at 3:38 pm

    [Harm Millaard] “An MPEG4 720P format? If you want to have trouble editing, consider it.”

    Ditto! In other words: a bad choice.

    I would highly recommend the Canon HV10. I purchased it a few months ago and couldn’t be happier. This camera matches the video quality of our XL-H1!!

    Take a look here at a few samples here:
    https://www.asvideoproductions.com/stuff/HV10_Samples/

    These are straight out of the camera with FULL auto settings. Again, the full auto is just for demonstration purposes, but you should get the idea.

    – Aanarav

    Aanarav Sareen
    premiere@asvideoproductions.com

    https://www.asvideoproductions.com/techtalk

  • Perry Cheng

    December 30, 2006 at 4:31 am

    All,
    I had the same scepticism, however, after viewing some of the “supposedly shot w/ edit footages” of this cam, I am wondering to want to give it a try. Yes, it may not be good for editing, professional use, but for caring on the trip, well, can’t beat that, right? Low light quality is not too bad either. Well, I have done some readings, mostly bashing this Cam from the pro, but from the consumer level, or even some prosumers, it is certainly a little toy to have.

    Perry

  • Gianluca

    December 31, 2006 at 10:44 am

    Thanks guys,
    I am actually considering the sony HC3E which seems rather handy and with very good performance. The canon one is a good one.. but strange thing .. if I read well.. you can’t plug in an external mic!

    Gian

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