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  • Can Premiere Pro Export AVI Reference Movie?

    Posted by Ben Cheng on November 20, 2006 at 11:44 am

    Hi All,

    I like to seek some advice here regarding PPro ability to export a AVI reference movie?
    If this is not possible, is there any workaround?

    Any advice is greatly appreciated.

    Cheers,
    Ben Cheng
    The Media Village
    Singapore

    David Owen replied 19 years, 5 months ago 7 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Mike Velte

    November 20, 2006 at 12:42 pm

    No, what is your goal? There may be a workaround.

  • Eric Addison

    November 20, 2006 at 4:54 pm

    How is a AVI reference movie different then an AVI file?

  • Ben Cheng

    November 20, 2006 at 5:04 pm

    Hi All,

    Thanks for your reply.

    1. To ‘combine’ media captured from 2 tapes, without rendering a 3rd AVI file.
    The rendering takes up a lot of disk space & time, if you are working in HD formats.

    2. After capturing, the next step is to encode the AVI file.
    As mentioned before, the source media may be on 2 different tapes, hence creating a AVI reference file save time & space.

    An AVI reference movie is a file which contains no actual data, but refers to another piece of AVI media.
    If the source needs to be render, e.g title or effect applied, then the reference movie will point to the rendered media.

    Cheers,
    Ben Cheng

  • Mike Cohen

    November 20, 2006 at 7:18 pm

    that’s one thing I miss about the Mac was the reference movie. In fact right now I am waiting for a sequence to render out as AVI, so I can batch encode several windows media files overnight.
    I know Procoder could import a Premiere 6.5 project, which is sort of the same thing – does it still have such a capability?
    You can save reference movies within QT Pro, but of course if using AVI that could make for trouble.

    Mike Cohen

  • Somalinis

    November 21, 2006 at 11:54 am

    No it can’t. Reference movies are the thing in mac and it’s *.mov’s. There no such thing as reference *.avi in PPRO. But I don’t miss it much. Can you tell particular situation you faced? Why do you need reference?

  • Harm Millaard

    November 21, 2006 at 3:13 pm

    “Once upon a time…” Canopus used reference files with their Storm and Raptor cards. Caused serious problems and was based on type 1 AVI’s, which are not favoured by PremPro. Since PremPro uses type 2 AVI’s there is no need for reference files anymore. They are a thing from the past. Not meaning that anything from the past is worthwhile. Why else would we have musea? But in reality, that is where ref.files belong. In a museum.

    Harm Millaard

  • Ben Cheng

    November 21, 2006 at 3:35 pm

    Hi Harm & All,

    Tks for all your replies & time.

    May I know what do you mean for AVI Type 2 there is no need for ref file?
    Hope you can enlighten me on this point.
    May I know how to achieve that?

    As mentioned in my previous posting, my aim is to combine 2 AVI files on a PPro timeline & create a single AVI file, without rendering a new AVI file.
    Rendering a new AVI file takes time & disk space, especially for HD formats.

    Cheers,
    Ben Cheng

  • Harm Millaard

    November 21, 2006 at 4:08 pm

    With an AVI type 2 capture you can capture the whole tape length in one go if you use NTFS disks. Even a 184 minute DVCAM tape can be captured in one go. There is no file limitation for capturing clips of this length. Personally I prefer to use scene detection to capture shorter clips, but that depends on your work flow and editing style.

    Putting two clips from whatever length but to but in a time line is easy. They do not require rendering, unless effects were added, like colour correction. If you need an AVI from that, you need to export, but if your need is to export to DVD, forego the AVI creation and just export to MPEG2-DVD format.

    Harm Millaard

  • Ben Cheng

    November 21, 2006 at 4:17 pm

    Hi Harm,

    For certain source media, they come in 2 DigiBeta tapes or more, therefore we need to capture from 2 tapes & join them into 1 AVI file.

    This is for Windows Media encoding. The encoder software only accepts 1 single AVI file, with both audio & video on it.

    There are another option which support capturing from 2 tapes & create 1 AVI file, but the price is pretty high for the HD option.
    Therefore we are exploring other options.

    I guess for PPro, the only way is to export & render a new AVI file.
    Thanks anyway.

    Cheers
    Ben Cheng

  • Harm Millaard

    November 21, 2006 at 4:26 pm

    Would it be an option to export the two AVI files in one sequence by using AME (Adobe Media Encoder) to export to WMV, instead of using a separate encoder?

    Harm Millaard

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