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  • My Opinion on the Titler PP2

    Posted by Ron Moody on June 25, 2006 at 4:49 am

    I’ll register my opinion now while it’s clearly in mind. I prefer the titler in version 1.5. Here’s why.

    When it crashes, the unsaved titles in the project are lost forever. My computer was stable until version 2.0 (get the hint???). When version 1.5 did on occasion crash, the titles were there, ready to import with very little time wasted.

    Not the case in version 2.0. Not only does it crash more frequently, but when it does, it causes much more damage and wastes much more time.

    Granted, the UI is much improved. It made a great leap with PP1, better still in version 1.5, and better again with version two. If only it was as stable as the prior versions.

    It seems to crash most frequetly when nudging audio files with the ALT> or ALT< command. It also crashes but less frequently with the titler. It used to crash with the titler in earlier versions (Like 5 or 6, I don't remember exactly), but Adobe seemed to get it under control... until PP2 anyway. SO, I'm frustrated, and venting, but perhaps someone will take note and fix it. I hope so anyway. Other than that, I like most of the Production Studio. I still think Encore has a long ways to go, but it's loads better than it was in version one. Ron on Maui

    Tim Kolb replied 19 years, 10 months ago 6 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Aanarav Sareen

    June 25, 2006 at 5:35 am

    Hi Ron,
    I often export my titles (select your created titles in Premiere Pro and File > Export > Title). This will ensure that nothing happens to your titles, in the event the project crashes.

  • Mike Velte

    June 25, 2006 at 11:29 am

    I have been teaching Premiere 2 on about 20 different PCs in the last few months, including some dual Zeons, 3.4 ghz, 4 GB RAM, 1 Tb Raid and the issues I see are on occasion some function/command will just stop working and restarting the PC fixes that. We did have one occasion to use the Auto saved version of the Project.
    Also Pro and Elements crash when trying to burn DVDs, although Encore can.

    I would update video and sound card drivers with vendor versions, failing that, update the BIOS.

  • Tim Kolb

    June 25, 2006 at 1:26 pm

    When you crash, do you use an auto save project to start working again?

    Is auto-save turned on?

    I haven’t really seen any crashing issues with the titler, (and I’ve had a couple of projects with literally 100+ titles), but every system can be different.

    I have my auto-save set for 5 minutes and on the occasional crash (usually caused by constantly changing hardware/software configuration), the auto save version of the project allows me to pick up nearly where I left off.

    TimK,

    Kolb Productions,
    Creative Cow Host,
    Author/Trainer
    http://www.focalpress.com
    http://www.classondemand.net

  • Ulflaursen

    June 25, 2006 at 6:31 pm

    Hi,

    I have never had any titles crash in my PPRO 2 on 3 different PC’s. I find it not the ‘fastest tool in the shed’, but no crash yet.

    Rgds.
    /Ulf – Denmark

  • Steven L. gotz

    June 25, 2006 at 11:03 pm

    I don’t think I have used the titler for anything since I got Dynamic Link to work. Everything moves, at least a little, so everything is done in After Effects. Even lower thirds which I used to do in the titler are not brought on to the screen using text animation.

    Steven
    https://www.stevengotz.com

  • Ron Moody

    June 26, 2006 at 3:01 am

    Wow, you guys are on it! Here I was just venting and I get all these great suggestions in response. Thanks.

    Yes, auto save is on, I forgot about it, but it didn’t help in this case. I just finished tweaking a title when it crashed and I was frustrated in wasting the time invested.

    Honestly, PPro2 hasn’t crashed much in the titler; twice that I can think of over the last few months, but both times was a waste of my time, and it was time that wouldn’t have been wasted with the prior version’s implementation of titles (as separate files rather than folded into the project file.)

    Related to a later post, I tried flipping back and forth between AFX and PPro once but the computer bogged down so much that I jumped the tracks on the “Get it done and move on” kind of project that I seem to do a lot of. It’s likely that I’m attempting this on an underpowered PC (3.2Gig with a gig of ram). I’ve considered investing in a dual processor with a couple gigs of RAM, but I’ll still be stuck with XP which is so wasteful of resources anyway that it seems kind of pointless.

    Now if I could do it on Win2k, then it would be worth the investment. Alas, PPro and the rest of the bundle won’t run on Win2k.

    Oh well…

    Thanks though guys for the input. I sure appreciate it.

    Ron from Maui

  • Tim Kolb

    June 27, 2006 at 3:40 pm

    I do a considerable amount of work on my laptop, which is a P4, 3.2 with 2 Gigs and a RAID 0 C drive…not far off the specs you are using. It’s not the fastest thing ever, but I’ve not had any runnability issues with it.

    On the old way of doing titles…if you had made some change to a title file without re-saving it manually, you would have lost the work. Titles had to be saved by command under the old system where they were separate files. Under the new system, if the project is set to auto-save, title changes made up to that point are saved.

    So basically, in the scenario of an unsaved title and a crash, you would have lost your work then too…and had no option, even with auto-save on, to salvage it. The new way seems better for your circumstances from my perspective.

    TimK,

    Kolb Productions,
    Creative Cow Host,
    Author/Trainer
    http://www.focalpress.com
    http://www.classondemand.net

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