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sorting clips in project window
Is there a way to sort with a primary and secondary sort? I want to sort first by tape number then by timecode. As it is, I either sort by tape or timecode and then the project window automatically does a secondary sort alphabetically.
I have 4 hours of soundbites from a conference. My camera didn’t allow me to set time of day, so all clips share the same timecode hour. I would like to organize the clips by tape, which is effectively by hour and then by TC. I will then drop these clips into the timeline for a short version of the conference.
Thanks!
Brett
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Why not name the files as you capture them into a naming convention that allows an alpha sort by name? I don’t know if secondary sort is possible.
Steven
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Brett-
I had the same problem and ended up making a folder for each roll and then sorting by timecode (more scrolling, but it DOES lay out logically).
slainte,
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Steven, that’s a good idea…something I’ll consider next time.
Marisu, I was hoping the Patron Saint of Overburdened Projects would chime in… that’s what I was thinking I’d do. Not perfect, but it seems like it will work.
I’m using subclips extensively. Will this inherently cause slower performance? Or is it better to use the good, old batch capturing only selects? I’m having some lags in playback, but it may just be fragmentation.
Thanks!
Brett
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Brett
[Brett Nelson] “Patron Saint of Overburdened Projects”
hmmm . . . nope, not a saint (she mutters under her breath after spending an ENTIRE day trying to export to tape 4 simple 13 minute timelines)I pared the project down to the bone, and it STILL had almost 8,000 sources (mixed 4:3 and 16:9, some qt’s, all colour-corrected, standard processing on the audio – just a walk in the park – right?!).
I haven’t EVER used subclips – everything gets logged in a database by the producers, selects get output as a batch capture list (clip names are numbers assigned by the database, description of shot are logged in the appropriate fields in premiere, supposedly the next batch capture list i get should automate that) so we always capture that way. my issues come with the limitations on sorting and i keep trying to refine my methods for figuring out how to easily clue myself into what I have in each folder without actually having to open them all all the time (my hand falls asleep when i scroll through a list that long!)
at this very moment, however, i’m finally home and ready to go work off my frustrations!!
slainte,
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There is no reason you can’t rename them in the Project Window now. It doesn’t change the name on the drive, but it would give you a way to sort.
Steven
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[marisu fronc] “)I pared the project down to the bone, and it STILL had almost 8,000 sources
You think that’s hard? In my day…maybe not.
Where media management is such a central part of your editing, wouldn’t it make sense to go over to the dark Avid side? I like a lot of things about PPro, but it sounds like you spend a lot of time butting up against what might be PPro’s greatest limitation.
Steven, thanks! I may do that. I have a lot of clips already subclipped, but moving them into bins by tape number may be just as slow at this point.
I know this has been talked about a lot before, but it would be great if different workflows were posted in a FAQ. Maybe just one example per form…spot, documentary, narrative… There was a great thread not long ago, but it gets time consuming to read through all the variations of different methods.
Brett
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Brett-
[Brett Nelson] “Where media management is such a central part of your editing, wouldn’t it make sense to go over to the dark Avid side?”
Of COURSE it would make sense, but I don’t make those decisions! The boss LOVES premiere so . . . premiere it is. My job (should I choose to acept it) is to manage to crank out the same amount of work DESPITE the limitations. (Besides, at this point we have 5 stations of Premiere, as well as the 3 of edit* for legacy projects, and we’re getting ready to add a 6th – switching again in the near future isn’t very likely IMHO).
slainte,
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Brett,
[Brett Nelson] “Where media management is such a central part of your editing, wouldn’t it make sense to go over to the dark Avid side? I like a lot of things about PPro, but it sounds like you spend a lot of time butting up against what might be PPro’s greatest limitation.”
Marisu has no ultimate control over what she uses, but the person who does is looking hard at the “dark Avid side.” (g) It sure would be nice to know if this media management thingy is in the cross hairs of Adobe development or if they are committed to looking to 3rd parties or just letting users suffer to deal with it. Does anyone on the leadership board here have a good enough relationship with the development team to speculate?
Ron Shook
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