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  • Premiere pro keyframing problem, HELP HELP HELP!!

    Posted by Princess on May 9, 2006 at 1:02 pm

    I used a lot of audio track keyframes in my movie, and now I have to move everything to another place in the timeline.
    Thing is, the keyframes I set in the audio timeline won’t move with the tracks.
    I forgot a piece so I have to move over everything, but it will take too much time to set all the keyframes again.
    I tried the copy and paste function as described in the pp-helpfunction, but it didn’t work.
    Can someone please tell me what to do?
    Has it got something to do with a difference between clip keyframes and track keyframes?
    And wich of those do I need to use for the next time if I have to move a lot?
    I hope someone can help me..’cause otherwise I’m afraid it’s gonna take much more work if I have change all the keyframes..and my boss won’t be happy with that 😉

    Thanks a lot anyway!

    Jeanique, Amsterdam, The Netherlands

    Jeff Bellune replied 20 years ago 3 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Jeff Bellune

    May 9, 2006 at 2:10 pm

    [princess] “Has it got something to do with a difference between clip keyframes and track keyframes?”

    Yes. Track keyframes stay with the track no matter what clips are “underneath” them. Clip keyframes will move with the clip.

    Much like effects and transitions with video, I recommend getting all of your audio clips placed just right, double-check that you have all of the audio that you need (and in the right order) and then add clip/track keyframes at the last.

    -Jeff

    The Focal Easy Guide to Adobe Encore DVD 2.0

  • Alex Udell

    May 9, 2006 at 5:02 pm

    Clip Keyframes should be used to make localized changes to clips when will move with the clip…

    Track Mixing should really be done at a final stage after elements are placed to avoid the exact problems you are having…

    wish I better news…

    Sorry…

    Alex

  • Princess

    May 9, 2006 at 5:44 pm

    Was afraid so…

    Thanks anyway.Both of you.

    Btw. I read this ‘Nest what you have into a new sequence, and then add to the beginning of that. Your keyframes will follow the nested sequence.’
    Can someone give me further explanations ’bout that one?
    I feel so lame…. :-s

  • Jeff Bellune

    May 9, 2006 at 5:53 pm

    [princess] “Nest what you have into a new sequence, and then add to the beginning of that. Your keyframes will follow the nested sequence”

    That should work.

    1. Create a new sequence where you will add the audio that you forgot.
    2. Drag-and-drop the sequence that contains all your keyframes from the Project panel to the new sequence. PPro will treat the nested sequence as a clip in the new sequence.
    3. If the audio you need to add comes before the existing audio, then drop the new audio in front of the nested sequence. Ditto if the new audio comes after the existing audio.
    4. If the audio comes in the middle, then razor the nested sequence like you would a clip and insert the new audio where you need. The keyframes that you created and that are part of the nested sequence will “follow” the nested sequence no matter where you move it or how you cut it up.

    -Jeff

    The Focal Easy Guide to Adobe Encore DVD 2.0

  • Princess

    May 9, 2006 at 6:14 pm

    what if I render the movie, and than cut it at the place where I need to put some extra footage, and then render it again, will I lose some quality ??’cause that was my first idea, fix the whole movie without the piece of film I forgot, render it, and than pasting the forgotten piece of film in.
    It’s a bundle of very short sequences all with their own keyframes.
    Two movies. With a space difference between them of 1,5 minute. the piece of movie I forgot is about 10 minutes. so I have to move the second movie 10 minutes further on the timeline included all the keyframes..
    I’m sorry if I’m asking the same questions again, just want to give a good impression of the ‘situation’..

    ps. and I’m sorry if my english is bad.

  • Jeff Bellune

    May 10, 2006 at 11:11 am

    [princess] “what if I render the movie, and than cut it at the place where I need to put some extra footage, and then render it again, will I lose some quality ??”

    Think about how you would proceed if you were using a pre-rendered clip as the basis for your new edits. Substitute a nested sequence for that clip and you can do everything within the same project by cutting up the nested sequence like you would the pre-rendered clip.

    -Jeff

    The Focal Easy Guide to Adobe Encore DVD 2.0

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