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4:9 / 16:9 Quesiton
Hi, I was wondering if you could help me with something.
I’ve rendered a show reel in Premiere Pro in 4:9. The footage was all rendered in 3DS max at 2:35:1. The 4:9 rendering is fine… the black bars at the top and bottom of the screen are what I want.
What I want to do now is render the project at 16:9 but when I do this the image becomes squashed either side.
If I import the 4:9 rendered file into a new 16:9 project, the image does not fill the screen. If I scale the image to fill the preview window will I lose image quality ?
Is the only solution now, to re-do the whole thing in 16:9 ? e.g. set up a new progect at 16:9 and import each and every shot and start editing again from scratch ?
Thanks for your time.
Steven.
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17 Replies
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Sorry it was a late night last night, I meant 4:3
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Whatever you do you will lose 15% of your picture both top and bottom. Is this the result you want? Why do you need to change it to 16:9?
Redgum Television Productions
Broadcast & Corporate Documentaries
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The main reason I want it at 16:9 is because when I render it for web, as .mov or .WMV I have a large amount of black bars at the top and bottom of the screen, as it’s 4:3. If it was 16:9 it would look better, (neatly cropped) and be more economical on webspace usage (I think).
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redgum,
I want it in 16:9 as anything looks a lot better than 4:3 (in my humble opinion), especially if you want it to look cinematic.
I just really want to know which is the quickest and easiest solution to this, do I scale the 4:3 image to fit ? if so will I lose quality ? or do I re-import all of the shots into a new project set at 16:9.
All of the shots are 2:35:1 so I know I will have some black bars, but this I don’t mind.
Cheers,
Steven.
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There is no reason you could not create a project with that ratio, and then import all of the other footage into it. That sort of creates an automatic cropping effect, just by fitting the video to the frame. It makes it easier to export to that ratio as well.
Steven
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Thanks Steve.
I’ve tried setting a new project to 16:9 and importing the 4:3 footage, if I use the interpret footage options it stretches the image horizontally but not vertically. Importing the 2:35:1 footage which was rendered in 3DS Max fits just nice, with small bars at the top and bottom.
I’m not sure what you meant in your last post about setting the project aspect ratio in premiere, did you mean you can set it to 2:35:1 ? If so how do you do this ?
I’ve tried scaling the 4:3 footage in the 16:9 ratio, but when rendered there is a loss in image quality.
Thanks.
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Using a custom editing mode of Desktop, you can set the frame size to 564X240 (for example) which is a nice size for a web page. Use Square pixels and no fields. That ought to give you a nice start. Then just export the same size.
One of the advantages of that is that instead of scaling down everything, you can pan and scan around and get the best part of each frame.
Steven
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I threw together an example of a 564X240 created from a full size 1080i HDV project. I exported the full size HDV file, then used it scaled down in a project with 564X240 dimensions. Then I exported to that frame size.
https://www.premiereprouser.com/files/gatorland.wmv
It looks a lot better at the full data rate on a 60″ HDTV. They look a lot more menacing.
Steven
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Looks good Steve, I’m still struggling with this though.
How did you set your project with those dimensions ? and how did you render out to those dimensions ?
Whenever I use the ‘scale clips to project dimensions when adding to sequence’ option it works fine when importing the 2:35:1 shots rendered in 3D Studio, but when I import the 4:3 rendered showreel it still has a lot of space all round, the top bottom and sides. When I use the interpret footage options it just stretches and doesn’t re-size.
I really want to just import the 4:3 footage and get it to fit the 16:9 ratio without losing any image quality.
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