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  • Just a quick HDV question…

    Posted by Michael Munkittrick on January 30, 2006 at 7:51 am

    I just made the decision to order the Adobe video collection for our offline suite and need to get your impression of Premiere’s ability to handle 1080i HDV source material. Any random thoughts would be appreciated.

    Also, I just got word that a firmware update is available for our older DHR-1000 decks and it claims to be able to do a live down conversion of HDV to DV…but being that the decks are so vastly different I find it pretty hard to swallow that without some proof. Any ideas or thoughts on this subject?

    Michael Munkittrick
    Managing Creative Director
    Evolve Media Solutions

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    Carlitos replied 20 years, 3 months ago 4 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Steven L. gotz

    January 30, 2006 at 3:10 pm

    Michael,

    You appear to have most of your hair. Would you like to keep it? Or is ripping it out from frustration more to your liking?

    Lets address HDV in Adobe Premiere Pro….

    Editing native MPEG video is hard on a PC. The frames are not intact. The majority of the frames must reference other frames and software has to calculate this on the fly. And every time you cut a clip the software has to recalculate the GOP. Meaning recompression. Premiere Pro is VERY slow and unresponsive when editing HDV unless you have a powerful PC, and even then it is lacking. And you are applying efects to 4:2:0 video.

    On the other hand, if you use the Cineform Intermediate codec available in the form of Aspect HD 4.0, you will convert all of your MPEG to Cineform AVI and you can edit as smoothly as you currently do with DV. And you are applying effect to 4:2:2 video. The wavelet technology they use is a miracle cure. To put it simply, the $499 price tag is such a bargain that you will wonder why you ever thought of not using Cineform.

    And if you have one of the Premiere Pro 2.0 unsupported cameras? Cineform saves the day.

    But mainly. all other issues aside, the quality is better with Cineform. Read the articles on their web site. Check out the free trial. See for yourself.

    Of course, you will want one of the graphics cards with Component outputs like the Matrox Parhelia APVe or the NVidia Quadro FX-540. That way you can monitor as you edit.

    Let’s address HDV in AFter Effects. Adobe has admitted a problem. Aspect HD solves the problem. But don’t take my word for it. Read this: https://www.adobe.com/support/techdocs/332583.html

  • Neopics

    January 30, 2006 at 7:11 pm

    I agree with Steven L. Gotz that you should consider adding Aspect HD to the mix. I just bought it myself last week, and it makes everything SO MUCH better. While testing, I was surprised that my lower-than-recommended minimum PC (Dell 4700 2.66 GHz with 533 FSB, non-hyperthreaded and 512 MB RAM) could edit HDV with Cineform better than standard DV before Cineform. (In particular, true real-time previews of filters and transitions.)

    And no, I don’t work for Cineform — just another one of those fortunate people who discovered it, love it, and now highly recommend it.

    Earl R. Thurston

  • Carlitos

    January 31, 2006 at 12:27 am

    And no, I don’t work for Cineform — just another one of those fortunate people who discovered it, love it, and now highly recommend it.

    .- Cineform ROOOOOCKS!!!!!! Is the best upgrade money can buy for HDV.

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