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Premiere Pro slow down my work.
I have a Discreet Edit system and i’m very impressed for the power of Matrox Axio system.
So, i try to work with Premiere Pro (on a system without specific hardware) and i found that PP slow down my productivity because it not have some keyboard shortcuts for basic editing.
For example: select a bin window (or cycle through all open bin windows), select a clip, load into source viewer, set in point, set out point, select timeline window (or cycle through all open timelines windows), deselect all tracks (including audio tracks), select a video track (no cycle through all video traks but select the desired video track), record the clip in the timeline ALL THIS WITHOUT A SINGLE MOUSE CLICK.Is possible to make this with PP? If is not, a Matrox Axio system, even with that power, slow down too much my work.
I’m an editor and first of all i need a solid and fast edit system, not a effect system. My work is not make a blur for the 95% of my time, my work is make pure editing for 95%.
I hope that Adobe make PP a very editing program with version 2.Thanks
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You can customize shortcut keys for nearly anything you want. Anyone who wants to do that much without a mouse is probably a former Avid editor…
There is a shortcut key map for Avid Express, but you would probably still have to designate your own for some functions.
There isn’t much an application can do to slow you down of course, but you do have to understand how the metaphor of the software design works to get the most out of it.
I don’t work with a client in the room very often in my business, but I had a producer a while back that was used to working with an Avid editor. He commented at some point on how “fast” Premiere Pro was relative to the Avid. I don’t happen to think that either system is fast or slow as such, but each application has areas where it shines and the editing process is as fast as the user is comfortable with the workflow, and how effectively each user takes advantage of what each application can do.
TimK,
Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net -
It is true that there is a shortage of keyboard shortcuts for bins and windows. Perhaps it would be better for you to go back to Avid? I am not at all sure I understand why people change to a different program and then complain about it. Use what you feel comfortable with.
That does not mean you are wrong to want the shortcuts. You should put in the feature requests. It is just that Premiere Pro does not do what you want. So why use it?
Steven
Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5.1 / After Effects 6.5 Pro https://www.stevengotz.com
Learning Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 https://www.lynda.com
Contributing Writer, PeachPit Press, Visual QuickPro Guide, Premiere Pro 1.5 -
I’m using Discreet Edit not Avid, i’m plan to buy a new system. Axio is a very powerful system so i want to see if with Premiere Pro i’m able to make a confortable and speed editing like i make with Edit.
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[Paolo] “I’m using Discreet Edit not Avid, i’m plan to buy a new system. Axio is a very powerful system so i want to see if with Premiere Pro i’m able to make a confortable and speed editing like i make with Edit.”
Ah…OK. There are a lot of Discreet users out finding another solution as the *Edit system gets further and further from its last support date…Adobe might be well advised to set up a key set for that system.
The bottom line is that Premiere Pro is going to use more mousing than you’re used to…there are hot keys and you can custom map them, but some of those functions you mentioned will require at least partial mouse usage.
…The sheer torque of the Axio system might make it worth it to make the adjustment though…
TimK,
Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net -
Paolo
I’ve made the move from Edit to PPro. It is like performing surgury with boxing gloves on. Remapping the keyboard doesn’t solve it because Premiere just doesn’t work the same. Just plan on your edits taking twice as long to start…eventually you get used to the workflow it will always be slower than Edit.
Simple things on Edit like splitting a clip on toggled tracks. You either spit all clips on all tracks or you get your mouse and a razor tool and manual split each track. It drives you nuts. And Premiere is designed to work with stereo tracks so you have to add an audio effect to each clip to isolate ch 1 or ch 2. The mixer is a joke. If you mix a show and decide to remove 10 seconds…the mix stays with the track time, and not the clips. You have to mix clips individually to keep your mix with the clips. Media management is ridiculous after Edit. GOTO in Edit will find every clip with a specific timecode….well Premiere in my experience can find text entries and that is about it.
So I’m praying 2.0 is around the corner because I didn’t find anything else I liked any better.
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This post confirm all my fears about this software.
Is too bad to have a powerful system like Axio with a software like PP.Maybe i must to look at VelocityQ (or VelocityHD), this seems to me to have a better workflow in pure editing but maybe is too much dependent to hardware where Axio can grow with power of future CPU.
Or maybe i must to look at Avid… I don’t like too much, it offer less things for many more money.Or maybe i must hold my breath, remain with Discreet Edit and pray for the version 2 of PP…
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[Paolo] “This post confirm all my fears about this software.
Is too bad to have a powerful system like Axio with a software like PP.Maybe i must to look at VelocityQ (or VelocityHD), this seems to me to have a better workflow in pure editing but maybe is too much dependent to hardware where Axio can grow with power of future CPU.
Or maybe i must to look at Avid… I don’t like too much, it offer less things for many more money.”Well….I guess everybody has their preferences. I’ve not used Edit, but I know it had some great workflow aspects. PPro is definitely different, but honestly if I changed to Edit tomorrow, I could probably find any number of things that mess up my workflow. It’s all in what you’re used to…
I don’t really know how much Axio will grow with a new CPU…any more then Velocity anyway. Both are pretty dependent on their proprietary board for their speed. That doesn’t make them bad though…
TimK,
Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net -
Greetings Paolo and Tim.
Paolo – see my response to you on the Matrox forum, and be patient with this software, I have reaped great rewards in being open to learning how PPro works, no, it’s not Edit, nothing else out there is Edit.
I’m trying to work with Adobe to help impliment the few keystroke capabilities that would really make PPro fly, I’ve done it before and I’m trying to do it again.Tim – Axio’s capabilities are greatly accelerated by more powerful CPU’s. I did the Axio demos at NAB and IBC. At NAB I used an HP 9300 with dual opterons and was able to demonstrate 2 layers of uncompressed HD video, with effects, and 2 layers of keyed gfx, with effects, any more layers than that and I had the Red Bar. At IBC, using the same Axio boards as we did at NAB, I was able to increase my layers on that demo timeline to 4 layers of uncompressed HD video and 4 layers of keyed graphics. Other than a new version of Axio software, the only difference was using an HP 9300 with dual core processors replacing the dual opteron processors.
That seems pretty scaleable to me, don’t ya’ think?LS
Larry Sherwood
Sherwood Post Production
Austin, Texas
512 219-8721
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[Larry Sherwood] “That seems pretty scaleable to me, don’t ya’ think?”
Wow…I stand corrected. So what is the BOARD doing…it’s more expensive than the computer!
😉
TimK,
Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net -
Also Larry…did you get my email?
TimK,
Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
“Premiere Pro Fast Track DVD Series” http://www.classondemand.net
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