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HDV & SD editing on same Adobe timeline
What’s the best way to edit both widescreen HDV and 4:3 SD clips on the Adobe Premiere Pro (1.5.1) timeline?
When I capture, it seems I can only capture HVD on HDV timeline, or SD on an SD timeline. However, I can import either clip to the other -
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Using regular MiniDV footage in an HDV project merely requires that it be scaled up. I believe you will find that 221% is the number used when your project settings are checked off to scale footage to the project dimensions when placed on the sequence.
The problem is that scaling DV that much makes it look horrible in comparison. So, if you wanted to make a DVD, I would suggest that you bring the HDV into the SD project instead.
But since your project is intended for the big screen, I would not suggest decreasing the resolution of the HDV footage. So that leaves a big question. Should you use Premiere Pro to scale up the SD footage? Or, are there better programs to do that with? Is After Effects better? Should you use Photoshop to do it – one frame at a time (using an Action to do the entire directory in one command)?
That is the main issue as far as I can tell. Which is the best way to scale up the SD footage? And there are better people on the Cow to answer that than me. This assumes you have the capabilities of projecting at HD resolution. If not, back to creating the DVD and just projecting that.
Steven
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[Dylan O’Leary] “The SD doesn
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Tim–
Thanks. Any info on how “HVD scaled down to a SD image” will look once projected on a wide screen theater? I’ve seen what happens to my Sony VX2000 3-chip and it isn’t bad (our first movie, “This Darkness”) but the Canon ZR100s we’re using on this film are cheap and, I’m afraid, will disintegrate on the big silverscreen. And leads?Dylan O’Leary
Dylan O’Leary
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Try using an HDV timeline, import the DV footage and in the “Project” window right click the DV clip and select “Interpret Footage”. Select either DVWS 16:9 or HDV as your chosen format. A lot will depend on how good your original DV footage is.
DVWS will give you a slightly wider picture when projected digitally whereas HDV will be slightly narrower in comparison to your original HDV footage. A quirk of Prem Pro. When underscanned you won’t see any difference.
This is also a good way of seeing how terrible defacto WS is. An ordinary DV shot stretched has far more resolution than a defacto WS.Redgum Television Productions
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[Dylan O’Leary] “Thanks. Any info on how “HVD scaled down to a SD image” will look once projected on a wide screen theater? I’ve seen what happens to my Sony VX2000 3-chip and it isn’t bad (our first movie, “This Darkness”) but the Canon ZR100s we’re using on this film are cheap and, I’m afraid, will disintegrate on the big silverscreen. And leads?”
Well the key here is how DV and HDV will look relative to each other. The fact that you used some entry-level Canon cameras for your DV stuff and are now intending to mix it with HDV probably doesn’t help, but the basic thing is the consistency. Scaling HDV down will make a far more similar image to DV than DV would to HDV if scaled up…period.
As far as how the down-scaled HDV will look…I would suspect at least as good as (probably a bit better than)your VX2000, I’m more concerned about how the two types of footage will look next to each other.
The other problem is aspect ratio…if I understand you correctly, you shot DV at 4:3 and HDV at 16:9. If your intent was to use this as wide screen, you didn’t do yourself any favors by shooting 4:3.
If you choose to use a 16:9 DV timeline, the HDV will scale down fine, but if you also choose to expand your 4:3 DV footage to 16:9, all the SD shots will be distorted…while the HDV originated material will not. Using a 4:3 DV timeline would allow you to use the DV material undistorted and crop the HDV, but you have this large theatrical screen to fill apparently…
This is kind of a dilemma. I don’t have an easy answer. Mixing SD and HD can work in certain situations, but theatrical presentation wouldn’t be one that immediately comes to mind.
Is there a general difference somehow in the use of each type of footage (all dialogue/actors were shot in DV, landscapes and beauty shots in HDV…or vice-versa…or?).
TimK,
Kolb Syverson Communications,
Creative Cow Host,
2004-2005 NAB Post Production Conference
Premiere Pro Technical Chair,
Author, “The Easy Guide to Premiere Pro” http://www.focalpress.com
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