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Is it supposed to be this SSLLLOOOOWWW?
So I set up a simple sequence of about 45 minutes in length. It’s a bunch of small avi’s captured by Matrox’s Media Tools with my rt.x100 from my Panasonic PV-GS120. Pretty much just the whole DV tape, one avi per detected scene, with a couple of “lens cap still on” type of scenes taken out, and one 60 second or so scene shot sideways (It wasn’t me!) corrected. I places a marker at each location I wanted a chapter mark on a DVD. All I need is a DVD that plays with no menus, and those chapter marks for jumping to scenes, so Premiere’s DVD export is perfect. But…
It’s taking FOREVER. At this rate it’s gonna take HOURS (maybe 6?) to finish making a DVD of this simple 45 minute timeline. Is this normal? The “overall progress” meter is at about 40% and no DVD burning has started. I selected high quality 7Mb CBR NTSC as the encoding setting.
Here’s my setup: Win XP Pro SP1, 2.53GHz P4, 80GB SATA program drive, and 200GB SATA A/V drive, Matrox rt.x100 editing card, Lite-On 4x DVD burner, 22″ NEC monitor that I almost asked to marry me, all wired into a nice Panasonic surround sound receiver, Sony TV, and JVC S-VHS VCR. I mean, it’s pretty nice stuff. Seems it should be faster.
I can see the preview mv2 file growing in Windows explorer, and XP’s performance graph shows my processor at a solid 100%.
Any suggestions? Or is this just what I get?
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Yes, it will take as long. But, if there’s not a lot of fast movement(racing cars, karate kicks, light-saber fights, or really, really fast talkers), you would do well to reduce the quality setting to between 2.5 and 3, instead of the default value of 5. You will not be able to easily ascertain a difference(unless there is fast motion).
This will substantially reduce the transcode time, but still, do not expect realtime.
Keep Smiling
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Hi leeoverstreet,
Just for reference, I have a HT p4 3ghz machine and my encoding time is about 1.5 to 1 (1.5 hours for a 1 hour program). The only thing I can think of slowing you down is using a project preset different than your footage. (IE. 24pa preset for non 24pa footage). When you drop footage in the timeline does a red bar show up at the top of the timeline?
Just shooting in the dark,
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Replying to my own post for an update. Thank you for the two responses so far. The burning to DVD from the Premiere timeline ended up taking a few hours overall. When it was complete, the DVD was horrible, with wavy, blocky pattern throughout (not compression artifact, but serious jerky patterned blobs. It’s as if Premiere spent hours to calculate the worst possible DVD. I went back and used Matrox’s own export to disc feature (which only exports it to a file, and doesn’t actually burn it for some reason, but it did it in real time), then I used the dinky little Sonic My DVD burning program that came with my DVD burner. That worked, but without chapter markers since Sonic has no idea how to do that. So I got a DVD with nice picture quality, but with a menu I didn’t want at the beginning with one item, and no chapters. I’m angry that my $900 worth of hardware and software couldn’t do a very simple function. I’ve read in this forum where people are having trouble making a DVD from the Premiere timeline, which disappoints me since I could really use that feature often, despite the fact that I also have Encore.
Any ideas? Has anyone found a Premiere patch? Or should I just start learning how to actually use Encore and integrate it with Premiere?
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I make DVD’s from the timeline all the time and have no problems. Since you are commenting about the low quality video it would be prudent to think that a different preset needs to be used. Try one of the high quality exporting settings and see if it gives any different results. I have never had anything but pristine encodes fom premiere. Lower quality encodes will take longer than high ones (i know that sounds wierd, but try it, it does check out). Also make sure that it is a DVD preset and not a VCD preset.
That’s all I have off the top of my head.
Scott
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I chose the highest quality encoding available that didn’t mention surround sound. It was 7Mb CBR. And it’s not that my encoding had bad quality, it’s that it was WRONG. Warped, warbly, and, well…. wrong. I’m wondering if it’s some subtle incompatibility with Matrox’s DV codec. When I used Matrox’s “export to disc” plugin, like I mentioned, that encoded properly and very fast (exactly real time), but I had to use Sonic MyDVD to make the disc, since I as yet have no idea how to make a DVD with Encore from a .m2v and .wav file created by the export.
I’ll just have to start from scratch now that I’m not in a hurry to get that specific disc made, and see more fiddling with settings can make it work, and see how to PROPERLY use Encore with Premiere. I’m totally new to Encore. If Encore will properly take the files that Matrox’s plugin makes from the Timeline, that’d be nice since it’s so much faster.
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I once spent days trying to resolve a problem that was caused by wrong field order. On my PC monitor, the image was too small to notice. When I played the DVD on my big Sony, it looked awful – smeared, wobbly, and runny. All probably because the MPEG encoder tried to make sense of the incorrect field order.
I have a similar setup to yours, Win XP Pro + PremPro + RTX100. My PC is a 3.2Ghz, and it takes a while to export from the timeline. Sometimes two-and-a-half times as long as the source material. (I agree that even that is way too long for “encode and burn.”)
BUT – the final product looks great! I’m guessing that you have some preset or config that’s not quite right. Maybe a PAL instead of NTSC, wrong field order, or something like that. Mismatched audio rates can really slow things down, but not cause a picture problem.
Jim
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Maybe field order is something I should look into. I definitely had the NTSC encoder setting correct. The audio had to be converted from 12bit (this wasn’t *MY* video work!). It just went SLOW and came out completely wonky. Could a Matrox codec incompatibility cause this? When I used the Matrox export to disc plugin, it went FAST (real time) and looked great, but didn’t burn to disc. It only created an m2v file and wav file. I haven’t used Encore more than once yet to know the right way to import those files, apparently. I tried it in Encore, and it made an unplayable disc from the Matrox export. I’ll fiddle with it some more.
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