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Subclips? How the **** do you make them?
I’m a very experienced editor and I swap cutting-platforms like I swap my knife with a spoon while eating spaghetti. Quite easy and with no consern.
Now I’m on a Premiere Pro 1.5 and I want to make subclips out of 7 captures of entire dv-tapes.
The camera I used to capture with didn’t feed Adobe Premiere Pro with date info so APP couldn’t detect the scenes for me.“I’ll make my subclips afterwards” I thought.
Now I’m finding myself duplicating the 1 hour long clip for each subclip I need and making the specific in/out points for that subclip.
Time consuming and to me a wierd way of doing things.I looked through the help and this forum and the only answer was to use project manager and let it make new clips out of the ones I use, but:
Is it not possible to have a master-clip, mark in and out points on it, and THEN make a subclip from it?
Daniel Martinez
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Have you investigated ‘Duplicate Clips’ as described on page 27 of the manual?
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No not yet, but I will when I get home.
I’m on my laptop at the moment.Hope it will speed up the slow workflow.
Daniel.
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Do NOT – I repeat – NOT – duplicate your clips. You will get duplication of conformed audio as well.
Just put the long clip into the source window, set the in and out points, then drag it back to the project window and rename it (it will have the same name as the original, so you really must rename it). Then move the in and out points and repeat for the next section.
Once you are done, you should be able to use each subclip as you are used to. Except that they are really not true subclips. You can trim the project with the Project Manager and it will create new sublips for you. Then you can get rid of the larger original file.
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Just to avoid misunderstandings…
What do you see as a true subclip?
To me a subclip is a clip that refers to a masterclip. And that same subclip being a part of the masterclip.
Also that subclip contains no media thus takes no space on the hard-drive. It is just a small reference file.Now, when you talk about taking my project through the project manager, and in that way getting true subclips AND at the same time
hetting rid of the large clip, then it sounds to me like i’m not getting subclips – but a new bunch of clips created from the original large one.What I want to have is:
Many small clips taking no space on the hard-drive wich all gets it’s media from the big one.
Daniel
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OK.
What you want is what happens before the Project Manager. The thing people complain about is that the new subclip in the project window contains a reference to the original clip as it is supposed to, but it is not limited to just the in/out markings. It is easy to expand the subclip out to the full clip again. That upsets some people.
Just try it. You will see if it suits you or not.
Many people want to create a set of new clips so they can throw out the original (large) file.
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That was what I wanted.
I managed to make a hole tape into subclips by copying them before I read your first reply to my post.
As I understand I have to delete them and make them again by dragging from the source monitor into the project window to avoid
duplicating adio canversions.Fortunaly the weekend is soon upon us.
Thank you so much.D.
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Premiere’s handling of sub clips is far from ideal for both the audio conforming issue and, more importantly for me, the lack of hard ends to the sub-clips.
For that reason I prepare my clips in advance using Scenalyzer Live. The latest beta from http://www.scenalyzer.com is vey stable and allows trimming, cutting, joining and deletion of captured clips as well as a host of other really useful features. Well worth a look.
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I see the problem with “hard ends” to sub clips.
However, the Pre Pro alo has a function of Play In to Out.
I mapped it to Shift + Space.
This might save you a few steps…
So Load your source mark you I/O…drag to bin.
But when working with newly marked subclips in the SV for editing use Play In to Out as opposed to the normal play.
You can also ZOOM on the SV by adjust the View Area Bar. the sub clip also seems to remeber this setting for each clip.
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The major problem with the lack of hard ends on sub-clips is the ease with which material can be introduced from outside the chosen sub-clip segment when adjusting edits, especially using the trim window. It can then become extremely confusing as to which sub-clip goes with which shot when ins and outs have been moved into a different clip area. This can be a real problem when editing from a number of similar takes out of a longer capture.
OK, I know that careful shot logging etc can mitigate this issue, but I find it very much easier and more time-efficient to capture and sort through the clips using Scenalyzer, which also gives me hard ends on my clips when editing in PPro. That way there is no confusion ever.
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My struggles with this ended when I started editing HDV. It is all captured with Scene Detect on. No more long clips.
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