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Any News on DVCPROHD support?
With the Panasonic HVX camcorder due to be released in Autumn this year, have Adobe announced any plans to support it yet?
I read somewhere that fistly windows has to support the codec; which means Adobe could only work on it after that release. Does this mean we could be waiting until 2006 for Premiere to Support DVCPRO?
Im really excited about the new camera and would even change over from PC to a MAC with FCP to be able to edit footage from it. With the interest this camera is creating I would hope both Microsoft and Adobe are working their socks off to get this implemented. Remember – the camera will shoot to P2 or maybe an external drive, so using an intermediate codec (via component outputs on the camera) would haper this workflow of ‘shoot and ready to edit’. To be honest I dont even know how you would do this….. Lets say I bought a blackmagic card – I’d have to capture to uncompressed HD which would be too much for my PC system to handle anyway.
anyone heard any news?
Karl
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The camera does not exist. So you are correct that it could take a while before it could be edited natively. But you can be sure that Adobe does not announce things until they are just about to release it. So about 30 days before it is available, they’ll let us know.
Steven
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In Windows, DVCPRO HD codec is suported by Canopus (SP for HDV) and Matrox Axio-Premiere (soon).
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I think that the only people who are waiting for this camera are the news shooters. anyone else doing normal production won’t touch it.
P2 is an extremely bad idea and will probably die like MII.Ken Adolph
Media Group
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The news is you’ll be able to shoot onto a HDD like a firestore.
It’s all specualtion as we have 6 months to wait; but Panasonic are too good to let this camera fall by the wayside due to the Pricey P2 cards. My guess is P2 will be 1 option, along with others.
The interest in it at NAB was big. I think it’ll be a huge hit for people like me who make short films and even low bugdet features. Even if it shot only to P2 I’d still get one. I think its a small sacrafice to make to get a quality HD image with no motion artifcats and varibale frame rate. I’m happy to take a laptop into the field to offload to – granted this wont suit everyones workflow though. Also, so far Im keying off DV (4:2:0) so even shooting DVCPRO50 would make a big difference to the composites im making and colour correction.
I’ve wanted to move away from DV25 for a long time but the cameras are pretty expensive – this will be a whole new workflow and step up for me and I’m v excited. Of course this is just my opinion, but I wouldn’t write the camera off because it offers a lot.
Adobe are too big to overlook this camera and implementation of DVCPRO50 and DVCPROHD, its already making waves before it’s even been released.
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I think that the excitement about P2 is because it sounds cool to record directly to computer compatible storage. If you can afford to have your footage lost because of hard drive failure or electromagnetical erasure and you can afford to have lots of P2 cards then this will work. However, over the years I have had too many hard drives die for no apparent reason. Now I only use redundant raid storage for my edit systems so that I don’t loose my captured footage. Even if a catastrophe happens i can still go back to the tapes and re-capture.
P2 will be good for news crews because they don’t archive any of their footage(only the edited story). It can also work for the high end productions because they can have a person on set who’s only responsiblity is to record to HDD and back it up immediately to another disc.
I think that the only answer to this “instant access media” idea is Sony’s XD-cam. These discs are almost indestructable with instant access and they are cheap. At this time the 23gb discs are about $24, can record 45minutes of IMX and are good for up to 10,000 recording cycles. The HD version will be out soon.
It is also possible to have the low-rez proxy video transferred via ethernet(wired or wireless) to a laptop in real time in order to pre-edit on location.
I believe the XDcam system is the future replacement for tape even though tape is still the most secure system available and will be around for a long time.Ken Adolph
Media Group
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Very true, but bear in mind I’m a single freelancer I cant afford to stack my home out with XDCAM decks and DVCPROHD decks.
I can’t get my hands on an XDCAM, 24p recording or 1080 HD for under $6000. If I was to shoot HD XDCAM, could I do it? and if so how much would it be?…. Nothing is telling me this will be offered even in a years time at a prosumer price point. HDV for the moment is Sony’s answer for the prosumer but it wont cut it for me as I intend to do lots of handheld shots. I’d much rather take the risk with HDD’s on the HVX.
Each new technology brings with it pro’s and cons. For a little independant guy like me tho the new Panasonic cam is well worth the gamble. It’ll give me access to material I could previously only dream of. Im always getting hacked off with DV because its difficult to track for 3d matchmoving, impossible to colour correct (and sometimes key). On top of this I get banding in animations I produce on graduated colours. The move away from this to DVCPRO50 or HD is so exciting I think I might explode. I’m aware of the downsides but the upsides are : no deck needed (files are ready to edit), maybe no HD editing card needed (if the cam can be used as a device to output to the monitor while editing), 4:2:2 image quality, 720p or 1080p – pictures good enough for theatrical projection, variable rate shooting for slo-mo, instant access in the field for deleting bad takes… I mean, on my budget where else am I going to find anything remotley close to this? It’s pretty groundbreaking.
If I could afford a varicam and a HD deck I’d snap it up, but I am a mere mortal. If Sony are offering 1080p XDCAM camcorder at $6000 then I’ll be the first in line for that too!
Anyway, a discussion like this I guess belongs in the P2 forum; i just wondered what the ETA on Prem support would be because I’d even switch to a mac for this new camera.
Karl
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