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Adobe TOS
Posted by John Baumchen on August 6, 2024 at 1:16 amAnyone dumping Adobe over their recent TOS?
Muhammad kamran replied 1 year, 8 months ago 5 Members · 4 Replies -
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Hector Vera
August 9, 2024 at 6:23 pmFrom what I am reading, there seems to be a huge concern on your creations from the Adobe Applications you use, including Photoshop can be used for AI generated purposes without your approval and knowledge. Its kinda like when you agree to the TOS whenever you sign up for a free social media networking site like Facebook and instagram. Like people said, if you are not paying for it, you are the product. But that shouldn’t be applied to your creations since you worked hard very likely to create your own content and if Adobe will be using it for AI stuff, YOU should be credited for it since you made the original work… but sadly that may not always be the case and which is why many people are very angry and concerned about this. Thats my take on this.
Here is a link I found that can give you more insights on this matter: https://www.engadget.com/adobe-is-updating-its-terms-of-service-following-a-backlash-over-recent-changes-120044152.html
engadget.com
Adobe is updating its terms of service following a backlash over recent changes
Following customer outrage over its latest terms of service (ToS), Adobe is making updates to add more detail around areas like of AI and content ownership.
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Mads Nybo jørgensen
August 15, 2024 at 11:58 pmHey John and Hector,
I think that Adobe has lost the plot, and run out of ideas.
Yes, they would like to mine our creativity – if someone was to lift the lid on that can of worms, it is likely that they’ve already been doing it for years, through this thing called “Machine Learning”.
Neither should one discount the Adobe Marketing Cloud, which has one of the the largest collections of data-points.My bigger problem with Adobe is that it for the last 3 years has actively used earnings from their core userbase, to create “A.I.” tools that is intended for non-professionals to use, so those users of new tools will no longer have to hire professional Adobe users.
That is a bit simplified, but that is what adobe has been doing + cutting away services from freelancers and SME’s so we no longer can use the Cloud in Creative Cloud.
And that is before talking about the buggy software. Premire Pro was useless in my last edit. Kept on freezing up. I spent more time opening and closing the software, than editing.
All because the CEO of Adobe has lost the plot and is no longer in control of the monster that he turned it into being.
Hopefully someone can inject him with a dose of reality, find a replacement.
But here goes:
IMHO part of the reason that NASDAQ recently had a wobble, was that the investors realised that A.I. is all talk and no play – even NVidia’s head started selling his shares…
But there is also legislation on the way, as creeping through the courts, where A.I. gengerated art can not claim copyright.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/ai-generated-art-cannot-receive-copyrights-us-court-says-2023-08-21/Then there is also legislation dealing with fake-video sites coming in to force.
After all of this, an Adobe A.I. user that find themselves using A.I. in everything, will get hooked on that cheap drug, and suddenly find themselves of having to buy extra credits from Adobe to make extra A.I. creations.
And after using all those credits, the plc/inc CSR team come knocking and ask how much electricity was used by that department? This is where even Google has been caught out by the rising electricity cost of offering A.I. To such an increase where Google is no longer a green company when it comes to their data processing centres.Yes, Adobe can change their terms.
My next move is a mix of Davinci and Avid.This is already happening for me.
Would I like to stick with Adobe, yes.
But when they release software versions so bad that they’re not ready for professionl use, and is going out of their way to sabotage their professional users by throwing development cash at consumer/pro-sumer products, then it is difficult to remain loyal.Just an opinion…
Atb
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Muhammad kamran
August 22, 2024 at 4:10 pmIssue 1: Use of Creations for AI Training Without Explicit Consent
Adobe’s terms of service have raised concerns because they may allow the company to use content created with their software for training AI models. This means your work could potentially be used to develop AI tools or features without your direct consent.
Solution:
- Review and Adjust Permissions:
- Carefully review Adobe’s terms of service and any settings related to data sharing. Adobe allows users to opt out of having their content used for AI training in some cases. Ensure you have disabled any options that allow Adobe to use your work for AI training if you are uncomfortable with it.
- Check your account settings in the Adobe Creative Cloud app under Preferences > Privacy to see if there is an option to opt out of content analysis.
- Use Alternative Software:
- Consider switching to software with more transparent or favourable terms of service regarding content usage. Open-source tools like GIMP (for image editing) and Blender (for 3D modelling and animation) are popular alternatives.
- Watermark Your Work:
- If you must use Adobe products, consider adding watermarks or signatures to your work. While this won’t prevent Adobe from using your work, it ensures your name remains attached to your creations.
Issue 2: Lack of Credit for Work Used in AI Training
Many creators feel that if their work is used to train AI, they should be credited or compensated, as their original content contributed to the AI’s capabilities.
Solution:
- Push for Policy Changes:
- Join or support advocacy groups pushing for stronger protections and clearer regulations around AI training. By uniting with other creators, you can amplify your voice and push companies like Adobe to change their policies.
- Stay Informed and Vocal:
- Keep informed about developments in this area and participate in discussions online and within the creative community. Your feedback and concerns can influence how these issues are addressed in future updates or revisions of terms.
- Consider Licensing Your Work:
- Use specific licensing agreements that restrict the use of your work for AI training. Platforms like Creative Commons allow you to specify how your work can be used by others.
Issue 3: Ethical and Legal Uncertainty
The broader issue here is the ethical and legal uncertainty surrounding AI and content ownership. As AI technologies evolve, the legal framework around them is still catching up, leading to ambiguity in how content can be used and who owns what.
Solution:
- Consult Legal Advice:
- If you’re seriously concerned about your rights and the use of your content, consider consulting a legal professional who specializes in intellectual property. They can help you understand your rights and any potential legal actions you can take.
- Support Legislative Efforts:
- Support or advocate for legislative efforts that seek to clarify and protect creators’ rights in the age of AI. This might include joining organizations or campaigns that aim to shape future laws and policies around AI and intellectual property.
- Consider Alternatives to Adobe:
- If Adobe’s policies continue to be a concern, explore and invest in alternative software that aligns more closely with your values and offers better protection for your work.
The concerns you’ve raised are valid and shared by many in the creative industry. Staying informed, taking proactive steps to protect your work, and advocating for change are essential strategies to navigate this evolving landscape.
- Review and Adjust Permissions:
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Joel Bellagamba
August 28, 2024 at 10:01 pmAdobe’s recent TOS changes have sparked concerns about AI-generated content and intellectual property. It’s crucial for users to understand the terms and conditions they agree to.
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Mads Nybo jørgensen
August 29, 2024 at 11:46 amHey Jeff,
Totally agree – also on the sudden rush of changes to T&C’s from Microsoft, Google and just about every other company…
But Adobe is leading the way down-wards.
However, a client of mine have just published this Zoom interview that they did with HPE about A.I. (Full disclosure: I did the video edit):
https://advanced-television.tv/index.php/video/293/hpe-august-2024/Matt talks about Generative A.I. and how it is often misunderstood in how much that it can deliver. Really interesting.
Atb
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