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Adobe Bungles Premiere Pro implimentation
The AVI files created with Adobe Premiere 2.0 and the XENA HS cards are not compatible with any other program except After effects 7.0. Adobe did not make available a general windows codec for reading these files. They used the fourc code of UYVY which corresponds to a microsoft implimentation of YUV, but did not follow there format.
Great Job Adobe!! add this to your failure to include capture of imbeded audio over the SDI and you have done the best slop job of implimentation I have ever seen.
Kevin
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This is a very disappointing issue. I was hoping someone might have and answer to this. We were strongly considering replacing our bluefish cards with Xena Hs, but it won’t do if we can’t share the media in other apps. If you here, or anyone knows if this changes, I’d love to hear about it……
mgoldberg@ccfv.comThanks.
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The only thing I have been able to track down is that if it is a 10 bit clip it will work. 8 bit clips do not transfer.
Kevin
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Is this an Adobe issue or a AJA issue? AJA makes the codecs for their hardware – not Adobe – just like Blackmagic. I normally render a Quicktime if I need to take the show into another app.
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[Michael Goldberg] “This is a very disappointing issue. I was hoping someone might have and answer to this. We were strongly considering replacing our bluefish cards with Xena Hs, but it won’t do if we can’t share the media in other apps. If you here, or anyone knows if this changes, I’d love to hear about it……
mgoldberg@ccfv.com“No answers…this is the reason why we finally had given up, we sent back our Xena. Too many hassles with the card and too little knowledge with aja and pc.(europe)i.e. Trying to find a well educated dealer for cineform prospect and Aja/PC?….nada, niente, nix, nothing…not a good point for daily work, when problems start at the first installation!
sadly, but…next attempt will be the BMD MB extreme
alex
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At a recent Adobe seminar in Vancouver, I understood from a presenter that Adobe programmers did the drivers.
I later contacted Aja to clarify confusion I had over which of their boards I should consider. I was wary when I learned that only one, their middle-of-the road Xena model, had support for Premiere Pro 2. Moreover, it was the only one they EXPECTED to offer support. I might add that the rep was less than enthusiastic about Premiere Pro’s own inplementation.
This, coupled with the fact that the Xena card’s spec requirements requires a whole new motherboard, chips and memory, and all at a price premium (more than $2000 Canadian AFTER the cost of the card itself!), have cooled me on the ungrade for the moment.
What disturbs me is that Adobe has alienated capture board manufacturers like Canopus (the board I currently use) who find it too punishing to pursue certification in the face of Adobe’s passive resistence.
When Adobe released Premiere Pro 2 with only ONE certified third party card, I arched my eyebrow.
When I start hearing that the drivers were a rush job for software that was already pushed out into the cold outddors without its clothes, I gotta start thinking more and more seriously about moving to another platform.
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Just to clarify, there are other boards that will be certified with Premiere Pro 2.0. Both the Matrox RTX100 and Blackmagic Decklink cards have drivers that are in progress. I haven’t heard anything about a Canopus card being supported though.
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Nor will you!
Dont be too quick to judge Adobe when Canopus had a hidden agenda with Edius. As it stands GVT now own Canopus and will be pushing Edius all the way. You will not see Support for Ppro2+ on Storms, NX’s r SP’s at all or any time too soon.
Pablo
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The AJA Boards are codec agnostic. “They don’t care which codec is used” It is up to adobe to write the file in correct format. With that said I was able to cut a few things before my trial ran out. The IO was superb, although everything had to be done in 10-bit if I wanted to take it outside premiere. Adobe haowever did not choose to support embeded audio somthing I can not live with out. There is absolutely no acceleration for any effects being done so it takes a real beefy CPU.
Not quite what I am looking for. Adobe was looking for a price point wheen they choose the HS, and that is what they have got.
Kevin
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