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Sony PVM-14L5/1 quick question about it’s labeling? If you have one, this is an easy answer for you?
Posted by Chris Mcguinness on May 23, 2006 at 4:51 pmThis monitor came highly recomended on this forum, so I ordered one from BH Photo… The order from say Sony PVM-14L5/1 the monitor itself was made back in March of 2005 and the documentation and monitor itself say PVM-14L5 without the /1 … In fact nothing other than my BH photo order from says /1 is this the case… do others with a sony PVM-14L5/1 have that label on the monitor… has a mistake been made?
thank you in advance…
regards,
chris mcguinness
Jeremy Garchow replied 20 years, 3 months ago 6 Members · 7 Replies -
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Walter Biscardi
May 23, 2006 at 4:56 pmBoth our 14″ and 20″ just say L5 without the /1. Never noticed that before, but I guess that’s how they’re labeled.
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Richard Dee
May 24, 2006 at 2:39 amAnything made in March 2005 is definitley the /1 model.
The only addition to the /1 model of the 20 and 14 was ability to play 24psf, but then
I read on a forum it was only able to do this through HDsdi in.I wish I had known that before I sold my second 20L5 with extra component input board for only $1750!!!
Now I find out they are going for like $4000 on ebay since you can’t find them anywhere.
At least I have one 20L5/1 as my main edit monitor, and I recently picked up a brand new
14L5/1 for $1000 !!!! What luck – I needed a good on set monitor for my HVX200 that we could light off
of, and no LCD will suite that purpose. I love this series of monitor.
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Jeremy Garchow
May 24, 2006 at 7:42 am[Deadhead] ” but then
I read on a forum it was only able to do this through HDsdi in.”It’ll do this through built in analog component, but the monitor doubles the frame rate to 1080/48. Unless there’s a special setting with the overpriced HD-SDI board (which I somehow doubt as the monitor was discontinued for being too much of a good thing, and also CRTS are heavy), the 24psf was essentially 48i; HD-SDI or analog component.
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Gary Adcock
May 24, 2006 at 5:36 pmQ[JeremyG] “t’ll do this through built in analog component, but the monitor doubles the frame rate to 1080/48.”
Actually it is showing the actual format which it is –1080 24psf – and it has to play back as a Progressively Segmented Frame — It is the way that sony built the 1080 format, so it could maintain the interlaced format for legacy to the earlier HD formats.
It is my understanding that only a couple of decks (SR and D5) can handle the content as a true progressive fame and the only the highest caliber of display can do the same ($$$$$)
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Gary Adcock
May 24, 2006 at 5:36 pmQ[JeremyG] “t’ll do this through built in analog component, but the monitor doubles the frame rate to 1080/48.”
Actually it is showing the actual format which it is –1080 24psf – and it has to play back as a Progressively Segmented Frame — It is the way that sony built the 1080 format, so it could maintain the interlaced format for legacy to the earlier HD formats.
It is my understanding that only a couple of decks (SR and D5) can handle the content as a true progressive fame and the only the highest caliber of display can do the same ($$$$$)
gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows
Chicago, IL
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Alan Okey
May 26, 2006 at 5:14 pm[JeremyG] “the monitor was discontinued for being too much of a good thing”
Actually, I believe the monitor was discontinued (along with the entire PVM CRT line) because Sony is trying to conform to Kyoto Protocol. By way of this, I’ve read that European countries are no longer permitted to import CRTs due to the fact that they contain heavy metals. With a big chunk of their CRT market effectively removed, and with the increasing popularity of LCDs, Sony probably figured that critical mass had been reached and opted to stop producing the PVM series. Now you have to spend big bucks for a BVM series if you want a good CRT.
At first I thought Sony was just trying to force their new Luma LCDs down our collective throats, but after reading about Kyoto and the European CRT rules, I think it’s not just a case of Sony being greedy.
It seems that there is no good moderately priced solution for SD/HD monitoring aside from the PVM-14L5 & 20L5 and the JVC DTV 17″ & 19″ models, all of which have been discontinued. As the remaining new stock is depleted, the bigger models are pretty much impossible to find and the smaller models are going fast.
Unfortunately this leaves us without a good affordable solution for HD monitoring. While LCDs can display the full 1920×1080 signal pixel-for-pixel, their color reproduction and interlaced display capabilities leave a lot to be desired. And while offering the best image quality, sub $10,000 CRTs can’t reproduce the full resolution of 1080i signals. JVC makes a high-end LCOS display that offers full pixel-for-pixel display and color characteristics matching that of the best CRTs, but it’s $45K. SED displays show great promise, but they’re several years away from being a viable option.
At this point, it seems that the only solution is to use both an LCD for pixel detail and a high quality CRT for color reference.
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Jeremy Garchow
May 27, 2006 at 12:38 amAlan, you bring up some excellent points. Thanks for keeping me honest. I’m glad someone is looking out for the environment and watching how many heavy metals make it into our products these days. In the meantime, we wait for professional and environmentally safe flat screen monitors.
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