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Kona LH vs. IO
Hi Everyone,
We’re making the chnage from Cinewave to either LH or Io. What are some of the pros and cons of each of these options? One thing that has been great for us has been the ability to mix codecs in one timeline with Cinewave. Are there any workflow issues/benefits that are exclusive to one option or the other?
Thanks in advance,
Chris
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9 Replies
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most people would consider HD availab le with the kona LH to be an advantage. if you are strictly doing SD, you will have more unembedded audio channels with the IO.
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I just purchased an IOLA and I’m dissapointed in the svideo quality also firewire issues when using firewire drives. I did just receive a separate firewire card that should clear up the firewire issues. My plan was to getaway from dv 25 and capture dv 50 (great codec) via s video but now because of the s video quality I’m thinking of coming out s-video breakout cable from the component output thus not needing the s video which the IOLA has. I would go with the LH more capabilty for a few more bucks.
Bob
play!mage productionsPlayimage Inc. / FCP 4.5 HD
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Bob, where can you purchase this S-video to component breakout cable? Do you have a link?
Larry Marshall
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[Bob Buruchian] “I just purchased an IOLA and I’m dissapointed in the svideo quality also firewire issues when using firewire drives. “
Bob
Sorry to here about this, the Firewire issue is well documented, and it the cased with most highend products they tend to take up the entire FW Bus — you really need to blame apple for the single FW buss on your computer.On the S video quality I disagree, unless there is something wrong with your box.
You should see a higher quality signal over s-video that over composite, but not nearly as much chroma as you do with a component signal.Gary Adcock
Studio37
HD and Film Consultation
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I found it at markertek.com S-Video to Y &C breakout, mo.# (SV4-2B-6). I haven’t tried it yet but I believe it will work
Bob
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I am totally confused by Bob’s post. The AJA I/O LA is a spectacular, excellent quality interface box for FCP. The image quality when using Analog Component Video Y, Pb, Pr (what you have on your Beta VTR’s) is as good or better than anything you can get on an AVID Media Composer. If this is not the quality you are getting, then you are doing something wrong. I have NO IDEA why you would even consider using S-Video when your professional VTRs (Beta, and DV) have analog component outputs. If you have chosen to use Firewire 800 drives (or better, like SCSI or SATA), you can easily record uncompressed 8 bit video. Even if you choose DVCPro50 as the codec, you will get excellent results.
If you are using S-Video, and recording at DV25, and using Firewire 400 drives, I have nothing to say, as your sources must be crap, and you are using a horrible medium to record on. The AJA I/O LA is an excellent product if it is configured properly. Using a Kona LH, or a Blackmagic Decklink Extreme, or an AVID Xpress Pro with Mojo will not result in better quality, as long as you insist on using S-Video with firewire 400 drives at DV25 resolution.
Bob Zelin
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I haven’t looked it at it, but I bet that cable you are speaking of is an s-video to Y-C cable (two bncs, not three). It’s what you would need to get s-video in or out of some of aja’s mini converters and the Kona LH.
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Bob, sorry for the confusion but I did say my source was s-video and I was looking at a YC breakout cable, if my source had component I would certainly use it but it does not. When Chris mentioned he was deciding between the LH and the AJA IOLA, I thought that I would share my experience. As you know better than anyone the Kona LH does not have the firewire issue and it doesn’t offer s-video. I think it’s a great choice if you don’t need the mobility of the IOLA and s-video. I do like this little IOLA box and it doesn’t have issues with the the PCIe macs out now. My one question is, will the breakout cable (mentioned in the above thread) be an improvement over the s-video. ? The goal for me is to get away from DV 25 and capture DV50 I love that codec.
Bob
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[bob@itv] “As you know better than anyone the Kona LH does not have the firewire issue and it doesn’t offer s-video.”
Yes,The LH it does have s-video bob, so does the Kona 2
you just have to purchase that same cable you went to markertek for to get the YC out ( or s-video)Gary Adcock
Studio37
HD and Film Consultation
Chicago, IL USA
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