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Flying type: echo like problem ??
Hi,
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Anyone ????
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Hope it’s gone now.
If not, what sort of echo – a visual ghost of the letters? And if so, do you see that on all outputs / a video monitor / a computer monitor? I’m wondering if it’s a video / screen artefact, addressable by using effects / video / broadcast safe colours ..?
Or is the echo / stil visible in an exported still frame, opened with Photoshop ..?
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Thanks Miki,
You’re right, it is a visual ghost of the letter visible on all outputs / a video monitor / a computer monitor, only in motion (not in still). I applied Broadcast Safe filter but there is no diffrence. The letters are moving pretty fast (around 40 frames across the whole screen), but I’ve seen it done in opening title sequence of “Tadpole” and it didn’t have this problem… Could this be done ? Thanks,
Jen
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Hi Jen.
// Motion blur + wider / bigger shutter angle .. + maybe slow the speed of motion a little? //
Sounds interesting. If you’ve seen it done, it must be possible.
Just to check I’m clear on what you’re seeing: the ghost effect is only visible when the animation is played, and it’s on both your computer screen and your video out (and these aren’t LCD screens, not able to refresh quickly? Of course they’re not!? But if you stop the After Effects playhead and examine a still frame, the ghost isn’t there? So if you export a still frame from a moving part of the animation, it isn’t showing the problem?
If so, then maybe you are on the right lines with motion blur. What happens in you combine motion blur with a much bigger shutter angle?
Also, just in trying to test the limits, what happens if,as a test, you slow down the animation speed across teh screen – how slow do you have to go for the effect to disappear …?
Just checking – are you working with with field rendering enabled?
Of course there’s a limit to how fast things can travel across the screen before the movement looks harsh – and it’s faster with interlaced footage than progressive-scan frames – but this doesn’t sound like it’s your problem here …I’d be interested in any solution you find.
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if its just text & effects, post your .aep and/or email it to me at
maybe its just your machine, maybe its just something a nonpartial party may be able to detect…..
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Thanks Mike & Phil,
I figure it
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i did something similar, but i used AE’s built in text animator, instead of shatter……on my computer screen, everythings fine, but when i got onto NTSC i have jagged edges…..but that maybe because it was red on black…..have you tried using AE’s built in text animator???…i used the preset: explosion, and then began to reverse engineer the way the set it up….and tried to use it to my own advantage…..that may help, because instead of a raster image (i’m guessing thats what happens when you apply shatter to a text image)…you’ll still have the vector text information throughout the effect…..
hope this helps!!!
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Shame it didn’t work out. From your links, it seems Trollback work with AE … I guess you could e-mail them and ask?
As the problem isn’t there on still frames, it suggests something in the video encoding / display stages, rather than directly in AE.
Though there obviously are limits as to how fast / far across the screen things can comfortably move frame to frame without image problems / persistence of vision stretch occuring! I guess it would be interesting to figure out just what Trollback did, frame by frame, and try replicating.
No doubt you experimented with alternate fonts, colourways.
I’m still suspecting the monitors!
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