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  • Bad news day for Apple users?

    Posted by Eric Jurgenson on January 17, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    HardMac is publishing the rumor today that Apple will likely be discontinuing their server products (including XSAN, FCS. and eventually OSX Server). Combined with SJ on medical leave and Apple’s leveraged stock price, it could be an interesting year for Apple editors.

    Andrew Richards replied 15 years, 1 month ago 10 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Bob Zelin

    January 17, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    Makes complete sense with the Apple Data Center being built in North Carolina.

    I am happy that Final Share does not rely on XSAN or OS-X Server.
    And Cat DV is more widely used than FCSvr anyway.

    Bob Zelin

  • Matt Geier

    January 17, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    Hi Eric,

    I supposed some may have seen this coming with the announcment of the XServe going away….but I also suppose it was more speculative then anything up to this point.

    Small Tree’s solutions are Ethernet based, and do not rely on Apple (XSAN) / Fiber Channel, or OSX-Server…..This will be good news for anyone looking into the future, especially with things like “FCoE” — Fiber Channel over Ethernet…….which will utilize 10Gb Ethernet Wires instead of your traditional Fiber Channel connections!

    Woot!

    Matt G.

  • Bob Zelin

    January 17, 2011 at 11:07 pm

    Hi Eric –
    I totally agree with Matt. Who bases their business model on “Apple Only” ? There are such wonderful products out there, that do NOT rely on XSAN, XServe, FCSvr – so my bottom line comment is – WHO CARES. I don’t use them now, and when they get discontinued, I don’t care anyway.

    Now, if FCS gets discontinued – well, that’s another story.

    Bob Zelin

  • Ron Amborn

    January 17, 2011 at 11:18 pm

    I also agree with Matt as Maxx Digital is heading in the same direction with help from Stornext and there will be some issues to over come but we are ready and looking forward to the future with or without Apple sever products. We will not be left behind in any way so stay tuned for some exciting stuff at NAB 2011.

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  • Nathaniel Cooper

    January 17, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    Could be interesting. In my opinion less from the ‘network’ side of things and more from the Final Cut Pro side of things.

    There are tons of great storage options out there. Xsan’s popularity is simply because it’s apple branded.

    Truth be told, it’s just an OEM of the Stornext file system. I’m guessing if the rumors are true then an enterprise storage company will actually spend some money to try and get into the Apple world for real. Many have flirted with the idea and none have commited yet. Possibly a media company could do it as well, maybe AJA or someone, but that could only happen if the enterprise IT companies don’t want to spend the cash. Point being Apple doesn’t own Xsan they just OEM Stornext.

    That being said, if Apple doesn’t want to support storage with FCP, then the chances of them ever supporting higher end features like project sharing are what’s really at stake.

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  • David Gagne

    January 18, 2011 at 12:28 am

    XSAN is not just about the Apple branding, it’s also Apple support and the Apple “it should just work” mentality. FCP guys don’t really want the hassle of SMB/NFS shares, third party iScsi initiators, or dealing with Linux servers.

    I think for a storage company to do this, they really have to pick up the ball on support and integration. I think Active is doing this best at the moment, but some other companies are starting to get the idea.

  • Eric Jurgenson

    January 18, 2011 at 1:47 am

    Storenext sounds a lot like stuxnet, but I”m dislexic:>)

  • Erik Freid

    January 18, 2011 at 4:21 pm

    I always hoped Apple would spin off a Pro Apps division into its own company like they did with Filemaker. It makes sense from a financial and support point of view and keeps the Apple brand loyalty. Figure a small agile group focusing on Server networks, high end creative applications. Low overhead, higher customer service, and built in loyalty, sounds like a winner to me.

    Leave Apple to focus its work on consumer magic with iwhatever, and consumer electronics; that is where they make their money. But the cutting edge development from the pro apps could trickle down and they can keep the resources and IP in house, just as a separate company.

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  • Bob Zelin

    January 18, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    David writes –
    “XSAN is not just about the Apple branding, it’s also Apple support and the Apple “it should just work” mentality. FCP guys don’t really want the hassle of SMB/NFS shares, third party iScsi initiators, or dealing with Linux servers”

    REPLY – excuse me David, but does XSAN “just work”? Do you just load the XSAN software into your MAC and XServe, and POOF, you have shared storage ? I don’t think so, David. I am familiary with all the popular SAN systems, from Facilis to Editshare to Apace, to GraniteStor, to Maxx Final Share, to Studio Network Solutions, and ALL OF THEM are easier to get setup than an “all Apple XSAN system”.
    XSAN is not part of the Apple model “even an idiot can get it to work”. XSAN is not child’s play.

    Bob Zelin

  • Mark Raudonis

    January 19, 2011 at 4:07 am

    [Bob Zelin] “XSAN is not child’s play”

    Mr. Zelin speaketh the truth!

    mark

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