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  • roto options?

    Posted by Bret Williams on March 11, 2016 at 4:10 pm

    Might have to do some intense 4-5 seconds of roto. Hands pulling weeds in a mulch bed. Need to cut out the arms/hands and lose the mulch bed background. I can animate masks in AE or Motion, but is there something better? Most roto I usually do is a simple animated mask cutting out objects and such for a transition. Not fingers and hands! The footage is 4k C300 MXF.

    Jeff Kirkland replied 10 years, 2 months ago 5 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Mark Suszko

    March 11, 2016 at 5:20 pm

    You could try using the chromakeyer in combination with the color board to key out the mulch, or, it may be easier to generate a key on the hands/flesh tone, then make an intermediate mask or “hold-out matte” from that. Still finicky, but in a different way from roto.

    Something that’s not always very intuitive is that you can deliberately push exposure, contrast, saturation, etc. in the color board to make a shot that looks horrible but keys really well. You can always restore the color changes later, after having extracted the hold-out matte. Also, you can invoke as many instances of the keyer and drawn mask as you need.

  • Bret Williams

    March 11, 2016 at 7:35 pm

    Thanks for the suggestions. All good ideas. Unfortunately tried ’em. Apparently there’s a real good reason Hollywood hasn’t accepted brown screen chroma keying as a standard practice. Just not enough luma or chroma to deviate from skin, clothing, shadows and so on. We are editing around the issue. Or reshoot.

  • Mark Suszko

    March 11, 2016 at 8:26 pm

    “Limit color” Color picker on fleshtone: tried it?

  • Bret Williams

    March 11, 2016 at 8:32 pm

    Yeah. Flesh tone is same as mulch tone.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    March 11, 2016 at 9:16 pm

    [Bret Williams] “Apparently there’s a real good reason Hollywood hasn’t accepted brown screen chroma keying as a standard practice. “

    This was a really good laugh for me! Thanks!

    Have you tried rotobrush in Ae?

  • Bret Williams

    March 11, 2016 at 9:17 pm

    Good idea. But we’ve moved on. Reshoot tomorrow.

  • Eric Santiago

    March 12, 2016 at 6:25 pm

    Also suggest Mocha for After Effects.

  • Jeff Kirkland

    March 14, 2016 at 12:16 am

    Or Slice-X/Track-X inside FCPX.

    Jeff Kirkland | Video Producer | Southern Creative Media | Melbourne Australia
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