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importing P2 media
I’m trying to come up with a workflow in which I keep the library and event folders small, that is the media in them is referenced rather than copied into. However, I am often starting with P2 files. Instead of creating a camera archive, I’ve been copying the contents of the P2 card into a folder in the finder on the media raid. Then I have been importing this media into a FCP event. It does not seem to matter if I select copy into or leave in place – in the library package are still rewrapped as QT copies of the clips in a file called original media. I assume this is because FC can’t use the P2 files directly.
The reason I want to use referenced media is because I’ve read numerous reports that this will improve performance and prevent problems. Is there a better workflow I can use to get the desired result? Would I need to rewrap the P2 files first and then import?
What I can’t do is increase the amount of time I spend doing this because I am organizing projects throughout the day and need to keep it simple and fast.
On longer projects I could use a different workflow.
Would panasonic’s card reader app do the trick?
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You want to choose copy (leave in place should be ghosted out) and then choose a folder outside the library. The files in the original folder should only be links.
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My standard answer remains.
Step 1. Clone your cards. Camera Archive or Sparse Disk Bundle. Doesn’t Matter. What matters is an original volume clone with all the sidecar files where the software expects it.
Step 2 . Finder copy that archive to a backup disk for protection.
Step 3 . Launch any clone and use that as the source of import in X in a REFERENCED media workflow.
Your Libraries will be small. Launching any clone copy will re-populate your storylines and projects.
While it SEEMS longer to get going this way, you can cut the archiving down with better hardware and tech like TBolt 2 and the the huge benefits downstream in safety and consistency are worth it.
It may seem that slamming clips into a storyline directly via the finder and just cutting via thumbnails and proxies is faster – it’s usually a false sense of speed. You get there faster but then, prior to any output, you have to wait longer for EVERY transcoding operation since you’re constantly working ahead of X’s back end operations.
My 2 cents, YMMV.
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I believe the question, however long winded, was “When I import, why are my rewrapped p2 files ending up in the internal library, when I want to use external media?” But maybe I’ve lost it.
But P2 doesn’t have to get rewrapped into the library. When you hit the import button, on the resulting dialog, leave in place will not be an option. Choose “copy files into” and from the pulldown menu to the right select “choose” and then pick the external folder of your choice.
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That won’t work with P2 media.
They will always be copied to the Original Media folder. P2 media carry video and audio in different files. Thats why they are wrapped in to a new file.The way could be to import and then consolidate to another folder.
-Andreas
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I’m not sure how leave in place can be an option unless you have a special plugin. X has to rewrap P2 to a .mov, so that kinda negates the “leave in place” option. Odd. Maybe it’s just DVCProHD flavor of P2? Im working with some of that and it doesn’t give the leave in place option.
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Andreas,
If I create a folder to consolidate the event into, will FC then move (not copy) the files into this folder and reference them? How would I keep this updated when I am ready to add another reel? Just consolidate again?
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[Bill Davis] “Step 1. Clone your cards.”
Bill, when I make a copy of the cards, I simply drag the ‘CONTENTS’ folder and “LASTCLIP.txt” file into a folder. I assume this is a clone. Or do I need to use an app like CCC?
Never had trouble doing it this way.
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When you’re importing P2, you should have the option to choose a folder to rewrap to. Are you saying you’re choosing an external folder in the import dialog, and X is saying piss off and just putting the .movs in the library anyway? Or do you just not understand how to choose the folder? It is just slightly hidden.
Yes consolidate will MOVE things OUT of the library. But you can also consolidate INTO the library. The latter will only COPY INTO the library because others might be linked to that external media and moving it would mess up their project. X has no knowledge of what projects are using external media.
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I deleted my post after reading Andreas’. But ‘leave in place’ is selectable on my home set up and on 6 stations at school. But it doesn’t work. And apparently neither does selecting a different location.
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Andreas just said FC will put it in the original media folder no matter what.
I didn’t notice the choose a folder to import (rewrap to) because I thought my choice was ‘leave in place’ or import into ‘the event’. But yes … not hidden. Since I do exactly that to have FC create the event and library on my media drive rather than the movie folder on the system drive, I think I tried that already. I’ll try again.
Just to be crystal: if media was in folders x, y, z on drives 1, 2, 3, you could ‘consolidate’ and end up with all media on x1 and no where else?
Mac Pro, macbook pro, Imacs (i7); Canon 5D Mark III/70D, Panasonic AG-HPX170/AG-HPX250P, Canon HV40, Sony Z7U/VX2000/PD170; FCP 6 certified; FCP X write professionally for a variety of media; teach video production in L.A.
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