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  • Should I be looking into Pluraleyes??

    Posted by Ashley Heilig on March 20, 2014 at 3:48 pm

    Hello,

    Here is my situation:

    I’m working in the latest version of Final Cut X 10.0.1 . I shoot weddings, sweet 16s and other parties with a two camera angle. For things like a reception, I am going to start using an external recorder, like the H4n, and just let it run continuously. I am shooting off two 6Ds, so I will have A TON of clips for an entire reception. As of right now I have been using the Mutlicam within Final Cut X, and have been selecting the 2 cameras to synch individual parts (I have been using the internal mic on the cameras as of those point– budget was an issue, but now I am able to purchase a H4n). I have not been 100% happy with the outcomes of the Final Cut X multicam… they’ve been off about 40& of the time.

    Long story short, I am going to have this massively long 3 hour audio clip and we average 112 GB per wedding– so there are a ton of clips. Is Pluraleyes the way to go with this scenario?

    James Culbertson replied 12 years, 1 month ago 11 Members · 17 Replies
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  • James Cude

    March 20, 2014 at 4:21 pm

    FCPX’s own sync should be able to handle two cameras and an audio recorder. Some things you can do to help- match the internal clocks of the cameras so you have a lot easier time matching sync when it’s off. Also- add on camera mics to the two cameras so they pick up more signal. When you’re syncing by audio, the app is looking for matches in the waveforms- i.e. an audible fingerprint. So, the better that signal the better the match. If it still fails for some reason you could certainly try Pluraleyes.

  • Ashley Heilig

    March 20, 2014 at 4:24 pm

    I know that Final Cut X has a limit of angles… and I would prefer to not have to individualize certain clips.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    March 20, 2014 at 4:52 pm

    You assign the audio as one angle (say Angle C), and then make camera 1 as Angle A, camera 2 as angle B. This is done in the inspector before syncing. You can select all of camera 1 clips and assign the angle, then all of camera 2, etc.

    Select all of the clips and audio in the browser, Right clip and make a multi cam clip, Angle assembly by Camera Angle, Angle Clip Ordering & Synchronization set to Automatic, check use audio for synchronization, and FCPX should do a great job of syncing all elements with Camera 1 in one angle, 2 in another, and the audio in another.

  • Mark Morache

    March 20, 2014 at 5:04 pm

    Yes. All great advice. And don’t forget that you need to make sure your footage is labelled with the proper camera angle so the multicam tracks line up.

    It’s also a fairly simple matter to step into the multicam clip and re-sync clips that don’t line up correctly.

    When I’ve used it, I’ve been impressed.

    ———
    Don’t live your life in a secondary storyline.

    Mark Morache
    FCPX/FCP7/Xpri/Avid
    Evening Magazine,Seattle, WA
    https://fcpx.wordpress.com

  • Ashley Heilig

    March 20, 2014 at 5:09 pm

    I will be able to synch all 100+ clips for a reception through the Final Cut X multicam?

  • Jeremy Garchow

    March 20, 2014 at 5:10 pm

    [Ashley Heilig] “I will be able to synch all 100+ clips for a reception through the Final Cut X multicam?”

    Yes.

  • James Cude

    March 20, 2014 at 5:14 pm

    There’s a ‘limit’ of 64 concurrent angles but you’re only talking about two cameras. All of the shots from each camera will go into just one angle- one for each camera and then a 3rd audio-only angle for your second system audio.

  • Bill Davis

    March 20, 2014 at 6:24 pm

    Ashley,

    The bottom line is that you’re stressing over nothing.

    X can do this in a walk.

    You just need to be patient and learn the process which isn’t particularly difficult.

    Know someone who teaches video editing in elementary school, high school or college? Tell them to check out http://www.StartEditingNow.com – video editing curriculum complete with licensed practice content.

  • Don Smith

    March 20, 2014 at 8:13 pm

    All good advice but it seems the OP is not understanding that all the clips of one camera will go on to one angle once all the clips have the same camera name. Two cameras and an audio? That’s three angles.

    It helps that the cameras have wild sound to help sync but I’ve greatly sped up syncing by also having sync on First Marker selected. While leaving the sound sync checked also use First Marker (and that goes for the first clip of a number of clips) and FCPX will use the First Marker so hone in on sync quickly and then fine tune the sync using sound. You just have to be close on the markers. Don’t have to be frame-accurate. I’ve had projects with many clips sync quickly doing this.

    NewsVideo.com

  • Dave Jenkins

    March 21, 2014 at 4:52 am

    Make sure all your audio is the same rate. 48k or 44.1 but don’t mix and match or it will fail to sync.

    Dajen Productions, Santa Barbara, CA
    Mac Pro 3.5MHz 6-Core Late 2013
    FCP X

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