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  • Conform footage in Apple Compressor 4.1

    Posted by Thomas Frank on March 16, 2014 at 2:58 pm

    Hello

    is there away to conform footage from 24fps to 25fps (or a other frame rate) in Apple Compressor 4.1?
    I’em aware you can open up the clip in Cinema Tools and click conform and select the 25fps from the drop down and done.

    But I do not have Cinema Tools on this Laptop only have access to latest FCP and Compressor.

    Thank you

    Thomas Frank replied 11 years, 11 months ago 5 Members · 21 Replies
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  • Bret Williams

    March 16, 2014 at 4:51 pm

    You can conform perfectly in FCP X. Just place clip in the timeline and choose “automatic speed” front he retime menu.

  • Thomas Frank

    March 16, 2014 at 5:18 pm

    Thanks, but that seems very impractical to conform multiple clips for delivery.
    I thought to conform you would use Rate Conform (24 converted to 25) and choose Frame Sampling Floor.

    There are 85 files I need to pass on in 25fps to the editor.

  • Russ Haskell

    March 16, 2014 at 5:20 pm

    As noted previously, simplest way is in FCPX.

    In done in Compressor, the app will just add a duplicate frame every second if you choose Fast for Retiming Quality. Or it will manufacture a brand new frame every second if you choose Motion Compensated – and just to add, that will take about 4X as long to process.

    Russ

  • Thomas Frank

    March 16, 2014 at 5:32 pm

    So there is no conforming in Compressor as in Cinema Tools?

    What about this… I add the clips in Compressor and set Frames Rate in the Video tab to 25 fps and ether set the rate in Set duration to 104% or check the So source frames play at 25 fps?

  • Bret Williams

    March 16, 2014 at 5:36 pm

    It’s my understanding that you want to conform. So that means playing back 24 @ 25. Which means playing it back just slightly slower. Conforming.

    IN compressor 4.1 you can set the frame rate to 25, then go back to the retiming menu under general and at the very bottom you should see a checkbox then to play back source frames @25.

    Of course you’ll under a recompression, just like X. But you’ll be able to do a nice batch setting and process and walk away.

    Too bad X doesn’t have an export like DaVinci where you could throw all the clips in the timeline and they each get exported as a separate clip. That way you could trim the clips more easily if necessary and work in a simpler environment. But compressor isn’t too bad.

    Cinema tools is the real answer though. No reocmpression and instant results.

  • Bret Williams

    March 16, 2014 at 5:36 pm

    Yes. You beat me to it.

  • Thomas Frank

    March 16, 2014 at 5:50 pm

    So this work with out giving me any ghosting?
    I just set the settings. the duration is set automatically to 96% . Why is it that in Final Cut Pro it will set the speed of the clip to 104% when I add a 24 fps clip in to a 25 fps timeline and choose auto retime?
    Also what is the difference choosing retiming in the timeline and using Rate Conform in the inspector as what the Manual suggest?

    Thank you

  • Bret Williams

    March 16, 2014 at 6:17 pm

    Something is awry with X. When I do a test clip of 24p into a 25p timeline, it is automatically conforming it to 25p. A 24p clip of 1:13 is becoming 1:10 immediately when dropped into a 25p sequence. That is roughly 96% of the duration, which is what it should be AFTER conforming. FCP still reports that it’s 100% speed, which, obviously it is not. Going frame by frame reveals no ghosting or duplicate frames.

    In compressor it’s totally right when you go by the process you mentioned. It reports 96% of the duration when you set it to playback source frames at 25p like we’ve mentioned. The duration comes out to the same duration when you apply no conforming in X. Further proving that X is screwing things up royally by applying the conform without any choice or notification.

    So, compressor is your way to go obviously.

  • Thomas Frank

    March 16, 2014 at 7:27 pm

    Maybe that is why is sets it to 104% when choosing Automatic Speed.
    The same it would do when adding a 120fps RED clip into the timeline

  • Bret Williams

    March 16, 2014 at 8:22 pm

    104 % speed would be the correct conform. The result is a clip that is 96% length.

    Problem is X is applying it to any 24 clip placed in a 25 sequence without any visible notification. If you then auto speed it , it’s actually pushing it past 104% speed. An apparent bug.

    Compressor seems fine. It speeds it up so the duration is 96% of the original. Which means it’s playing faster, which is correct.

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