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Roles, Keywords and the Timeline… no good solution?
Just making sure I’m not missing something.
I’d like to assign metadata to clips in the timeline as edit progresses, so when it comes time for sweetening, CC, I can easily search out clips.
Problem: 1) you can’t assign keywords in the timeline 2) Roles, which can be applied in the timeline, apply to the entire parent clip, not just the segment in the timeline. So a clip that could be used in different ways can get improperly assigned to a custom role. In addition to which, there’s no shortcut assignable to custom roles.
The only approach I can see is to assign keyword before cutting it into the timeline. But this negates being able to alter the clips’ usage (as per keyword) once cut into the timeline.
Any ideas?
(Seems like being able to keyword in the TL would solve it easily.)
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6 Replies
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Bob,
I’ve wondered about the timeline tagging for some time but have been able to “get over” it using the “Show/Hide Timeline index”.Inside of here I have labelled, in the notes section just what it is or what I want. That way, when I need to apply the ole ‘attributes’ – gosh, sorry- “Effects” I can literally search through the notes section to the relative search term and simply Cmd+V and then Cmd+Shift+V the attributes I want: OR simply use it as a search/ tagging ability, in a very loose sense of the term.
As for the Roles issue, well… I’m sure that someone can assist.
Have a good one,
Lawrence
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[Bob Woodhead] “Roles, which can be applied in the timeline, apply to the entire parent clip, not just the segment in the timeline.”
That’s not correct. Once a clip has been edited into the timeline, it can be assigned an entirely different role from the master clip in the browser. Simply open the timeline index, select the clip and make sure the roles column is visible. Then just change the role of the timeline clip to whatever you need it to be. The master clip will remain whatever it was in the event browser. Now if you change the role in the event browser, all subsequent edits into the timeline will carry the new role, but it doesn’t ripple to the clips that were already edited into the project.
Check out my tutorial on the Roles feature in FCPX. At about 7min in, I discuss exactly how this works when changing clips in the timeline.
Andy
https://www.timesavertutorials.com
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Well, huh. I swore that I applied a custom role to clip segment in TL, then went to another segment of the same clip in TL, and saw the new role there as well. Caveat – I did this using menu commands, not the roles display in Filter window, but hard to think the functionality would be different.
I will re-check this, thanks Andy!
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Operator error. Andy’s right. I must’ve assigned it another way in my first round of testing, and *thought* I’d only done it in the TL.
Now if only there were kybrd shortcuts for custom roles!
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That’d be kind of difficult since custom roles don’t exist before you make them. But you can select multiple clips at a time and change them all at once. And the main roles have shortcuts.
Andy
https://www.timesavertutorials.com
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Well, like keyword slots have shortcuts, and the keywords are custom. Same idea. But yes, selecting multiples, etc, is all good – I thought I was stymied on the other aspect. Good stuff.
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