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  • Upscaling to HD: I need some small tips

    Posted by Hassan Sabbah on February 14, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    Hello everyone,

    Been watching your wonderful community for a while now, and this is my first post here.

    So I’m trying to upscale some footage to 1080 HD. The footage is in low quality at 360p.
    Now I’m very aware that upscaling to HD won’t give me extra quality, it might even lose quality, but that’s not a problem. The video is an ad from the 70’s, and I won’t mind the crappy looks.
    However, I want the maximum quality possible in the conversion, even though I know it’s not gonna be the same as a native HD footage taken from my a77.

    I tried using Compressor 4 yesterday, and these were my settings:

    Apple ProRes 422 (HQ), rate 25 fps
    Frame controls On; Resize filter Best, Deinterlaced Progressive Best, Rate conversion Best. Anti-alias set to 10 and Details to 5.
    Frame Size is 1920×1080
    Output file: 1min10sec .mov 1.42 gb.

    Any other pointers/tips/additions to give me? I’ll be using FCPX to edit later. Unfortunately the new Magic Bullet Instant HD is still not compatible with FCPX, so I gotta do it on Compressor. And I don’t really care about the file size, as long at it’s reasonable of course.

    Thank you in advance.

    Hassan Sabbah replied 14 years, 6 months ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Noah Kadner

    February 14, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    I’d seek out other third party solutions- 360p to 1080p will look fairly hideous with all but the best upconversion.

    Noah

    Call Box Training.
    Featuring the Panasonic GH2 and Panasonic AC160/130.

  • Hassan Sabbah

    February 14, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    From the first output file (specs written above) the quality wasn’t bad. In fact, it’s completely usable. But I’m wondering if someone knows any other tweaks? Like anti-aliasing?
    Also would it be better to choose an uncompressed format? 10-bit 422?

  • Shane Ross

    February 14, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    Get the guys on CSI to do it. They have the magic ENHANCE filter that works when all they say is, “Enhance that image…”

    🙂

    Shane
    Little Frog Post
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Hassan Sabbah

    February 14, 2012 at 6:02 pm

    Ah yes, the famous CSI enhance-all filter.

  • Tapio Haaja

    February 15, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    Actually FCPX does fairly decent job in HD>SD and SD>HD scaling. It might be little bit soft to someones eyes but it’s much better than having all kind of aliasing and moire problems.

    Anyway to your topic. There’s really no magic way achieving great quality from 360p to 1080p. With this big scaling you can and should add sharpening to your material after scaling. Depending what kind of material you have you might benefit using Neat Video’s excellent noise reduction tool. Sadly at the moment it only works in Motion and not in FCPX.

    Best
    Tapio Haaja

    On-Air Promotion Producer
    https://avseikkailuja.blogspot.com/

  • Hassan Sabbah

    February 15, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    [Tapio Haaja] “Actually FCPX does fairly decent job in HD>SD and SD>HD scaling. It might be little bit soft to someones eyes but it’s much better than having all kind of aliasing and moire problems.

    Anyway to your topic. There’s really no magic way achieving great quality from 360p to 1080p. With this big scaling you can and should add sharpening to your material after scaling. Depending what kind of material you have you might benefit using Neat Video’s excellent noise reduction tool. Sadly at the moment it only works in Motion and not in FCPX.”

    As much as I’m happy with the new 10.0.3 update of the FCPX, I’m still upset with the lack of compatible filters.
    But that’s not a problem in this case cause I also have Motion 5, so I’ll probably buy Neat Video’s tool, I’ve been hearing much about it.

    I have 2 files now: One ProRes and one Uncompressed 10-bit. I’ll try on in FCPX and compare all the files. I am yet to find a good combination setting of anti-aliasing and detail numbers.

    Thank you for the tip.

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