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Slipping footage in Primary Storyline with connect video issue
Hey all,
I’ve noticed that if I slip (using trim tool) footage on the primary storyline, any footage connected to it will move earlier or later per the slip. Not cool! Any workarounds or solutions to this?
My workaround is to remove the clip from the storyline (can we just call this FCP7 mode? 😉 Then slipping works as advertised.
Thanks.
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Michael Garber
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That’s sort of the point of the clip connections, that when you move an element in the primary storyline other clips stay connected.
If you’re trying to slip/slide something and don’t want it to move the clips above it hold opt+cmmd and then click a new section of the clips(or secondary storyline above it) and it’ll put a new connection point onto the primary story line.
I just realized reading over that, that it isn’t super clear.
Clips are connected to the primary storyline with those little bitty lines. Any clip you connect to the primary story line will default the clips connection point to the front of the clip(first frame) to the place where you connected it to the primary story line. So if you want to move the link point you have to cmmd+opt+click a new part of the clip. So link it to a clip further down on your primary storyline.-mattyc
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matty, that’s great to know that you can create a new connection point. thanks for that!
i understand how the connections work. it just seems odd that it would work while slipping on the bottom layer. i guess that’s just one of my “old school” fcp ways of thinking 😉
unfortunately, the only way this solution will work (from what I can tell) is if the clip on v2 is longer than the main storyline clip. in this particular case, the v2 clip is shorter and doesn’t hover over the next clip. too bad there isn’t a lock method for the connected clips – or a way to just say “I don’t want this crazy clip to be connected! ;)”
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[Michael Garber] “i understand how the connections work. it just seems odd that it would work while slipping on the bottom layer. i guess that’s just one of my “old school” fcp ways of thinking ;)”
This makes perfect sense to me. Say you’re editing a fascinating new documentary about parking. You’ve got some interview footage in your primary storyline. The guy starts talking about the history of parallel parking. You cut away (via a connected clip) to a pan over a photo of John T. Parallel, the inventor of parallel parking. You timed that cutaway relative to what the interviewee was saying, right? So if you slip the clip of him talking, you want the cutaway to move to match.
This is, in my opinion where the magnetic timeline really shines. There’s just no convenient way to do this in FCP 7. You’d have to slip the underlying clip, remember how far you went, and then manually move the cutaway by the same amount.
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[Michael Garber] ” it just seems odd that it would work while slipping on the bottom layer. i guess that’s just one of my “old school” fcp ways of thinking ;)”
Yeah, the problem is unlearning the way that something would work in FCP7.
[Michael Garber] “unfortunately, the only way this solution will work (from what I can tell) is if the clip on v2 is longer than the main storyline clip. in this particular case, the v2 clip is shorter and doesn’t hover over the next clip. too bad there isn’t a lock method for the connected clips – or a way to just say “I don’t want this crazy clip to be connected! ;)””
I may not understand you correctly, but if you just have this random clip above the primary storyline but it’s not necessarily timed out to a specific spot in the primary storyline, why does it even matter that it’s moving when you slide a clip in the primary storyline?
-mattyc
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[Matt Callac] “I may not understand you correctly, but if you just have this random clip above the primary storyline but it’s not necessarily timed out to a specific spot in the primary storyline, why does it even matter that it’s moving when you slide a clip in the primary storyline?”
It could be for a number of reasons. Primarily, the old way is how i’m used to working. I like the idea that I can control the position of my clips independently. I’ve gotten used to working fluidly in that way.
That said, one specific reason might be that I have already timed the top layer to a beat in the music and I’m just trying to finagle v1. Sure, maybe there’s some gap at the end of the clip on V1 that I’ll deal with later. See where I’m coming from?
I’m not saying the way X does it is wrong. Just trying to figure out how my old workflows will shift. Also, I was just so freaking fast in 7. So, it’s like I’m getting my sea legs again 🙂
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[Chris Kenny] “Say you’re editing a fascinating new documentary about parking. You’ve got some interview footage in your primary storyline. The guy starts talking about the history of parallel parking. You cut away (via a connected clip) to a pan over a photo of John T. Parallel, the inventor of parallel parking. “
I would definitely go see this documentary no matter WHAT NLE this is cut in! 😀
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[Michael Garber] “I would definitely go see this documentary no matter WHAT NLE this is cut in! :D”
https://www.theparkinglotmovie.com/
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ah… yes. that makes sense
[Michael Garber] ” I have already timed the top layer to a beat in the music and I’m just trying to finagle v1″
that’s a tough situation. You’d think there were a way to link 2 different storylines together whitout them being linked to the primary storyline. or at least a way to link a clip only to a secondary storyline…b/c sometimes (as you pointed out) the sync doesn’t need to be with the primary storyline. If there is a way to do this I have not found it.
-mattyc
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Here’s a pretty simple way of achieving this:
Select your primary storyline clip and use Opt/Cmd/Up Arrow to move it out of the primary storyline.
The connected clip will stay connected to the primary storyline and not the clip you have just moved.
You can now move the moved clip as freely as you want and the previously connected clip won’t move as it’s still connected to the primary storyline.
When you’re done you can use Ot/Cmd/Down arrow to move the edited clip back down to the primary storyline and the overlaid clip will reconnect to it.
Having said, all that I don’t think Apple have really thought all this through quite the way it needs to be done.
Simon Ubsdell
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Can’t you link the top clip to the music?
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