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  • When editing narration, is it okay to cut on perspective change in audio?

    Posted by Ryan Elder on October 11, 2018 at 4:59 am

    I am editing a documentary, and I want b-roll to be over top of the footage of someone narrating, intercutting back and forth between footage of the narrator talking on camera.

    I did different shots of the narrator including masters and close ups. However, when it comes to the narration audio over b roll, and I want to cut from one shot to the other, based on when his performance is the best, is it okay to hear perspective change from the master shot to close up, without seeing it?

    Or does the audience have to see it, or it will be jarring otherwise?

    Grinner Hester replied 7 years, 5 months ago 2 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Grinner Hester

    October 17, 2018 at 7:29 pm

    There are no rules. That’s the only rule in editing. You simple massage it until it looks and sounds perfect. If it doesn’t, hit undo and trim some things.
    This is both the great and horrible part about “film schools”. They often teach so-called rules, knowing there are none. Those who rise in this industry are the ones who listened and understood ALL of those rules so they could then PROPERLY break them.

  • Ryan Elder

    October 17, 2018 at 9:45 pm

    Okay thanks. I would actually ask my film school professor if it’s okay to break rules in certain situations, and he said that every situation is different and he cannot tell me if one will work for one, cause it may turn out that it might not, depending on several factors.

    So I guess it’s just best to use my instincts then? But what if the majority audience does not agree with your instincts though…

  • Grinner Hester

    October 18, 2018 at 2:05 pm

    When editing for a client, it is to their liking. When making your own art, man the last thing to even care about is what others think. This is how and why some artists are famous and most are not.

  • Ryan Elder

    October 19, 2018 at 3:11 am

    Oh okay thanks, this would be for me as well, since I like to show my work. However, you say that the famous artists, are the ones who don’t care about what people think?

    Wouldn’t they want people to like what they do and think well of them though?

  • Grinner Hester

    November 2, 2018 at 12:09 am

    No, they like to pay thousands after the artist explaining the meaning of the painting and being a counter culture.
    A fine artists that applies rules is a house painter. An editor that applies rules works in news.
    I, of course, am speaking creatively. Today, most new editors have no idea about setting levels… nor do the interns at stations who throw uploaded clips in the loop. Hence levels all over the place today. Things use to be regulated.

  • Ryan Elder

    November 2, 2018 at 2:06 am

    Oh okay, thanks. But what about when it comes to perspective change? Would real editors cut on that during narration voice over?

  • Grinner Hester

    November 11, 2018 at 6:15 pm

    Real and great are two different things. You are overthinking this. Edit how you’d like to view it.

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