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Thanks Apple!
Just reading some of the posts on other forums about the iP -licensing issues regarding embedded tech in Premiere
when my email pinged with a link to fat digital check for a recent gig.A gig was executed rapidly and smoothly thanks to FCP X.
Which has caused me to be EXTREMELY grateful in a few areas.First I OWN this excellent software, for which I haven’t been charged another dime since my initial purchase 7 years ago.
Second, I now “own” the accumulated expertise I’ve built over the last seven years in the operation of that software. And finally, one of my projects this month required me to access content from a project I built in X about 5 years ago. Less than 15 minutes after I realized I needed that archive footage, I had it updated and in a fresh 10.4.6 storyline and ready to work with. And I expect that if that should happen again in another 5 years – the same will be true.When Apple famously “burned down” FCP Legacy and gutted the old QuickTime frameworks in favor of AV Foundation and the Core technologies, some of my contacts who are much smarter than I am said part of the reason was because Apple wanted to move away from being as tied to outside of Apple licenses IP tech it didn’t control as they moved forward.
Whether that’s a factor here or not I really don’t understand nor care about.
What I DO care about is that every time I go to launch X and start to work these days, my expectations of a fast, smooth and responsive work session are consistently being met and exceeded.
And that helps me succeed.
So once again, I find myself being grateful.
They surely aren’t now, nor will ever be perfect in their design and execution.
But lately, these tools have been pretty darn great for me.Just sayin’
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[Bill Davis] “First I OWN this excellent software, for which I haven’t been charged another dime since my initial purchase 7 years ago.”
As has been pointed out in the past, by several people….no, we don’t OWN the software. Even when it wasn’t subscription, we didn’t own it, we purchased the right to use it. Pretty much all software, from what I’ve been told. So yeah, while it feels nice to think that we OWN this software.
I OWN Avid Media Composer…and do pay for upgrade fees, to pay for such things as R&D and tech support, as they don’t have iPhones and iPads to suppliment that business. Oh, and I also OWN Resolve, which I’ve also never paid a fee to update, although not sure how they manage to afford that. Although, no, I don’t OWN them….as stated above.
And boy do I get my work done and get paid a hella-ton of money when I do….with a big fat old fashioned check. Seems you can get that no matter what NLE you use.
Shane
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Except that I don’t “own” Avid or Resolve. Again, it’s that funky software license thing where we don’t own it, we only own the right to use it. Yes, even FCX.
Shane
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Whether we license or rent software, the things that matter to some are trivial to another. As someone that has to take projects from all NLEs into Resolve & Fairlight for finishing, the things that all software vendors change or retire matter.
Luckily the various iterations of xml that FCPX has been through has been closely and rapidly deployed by Blackmagic. Lucky for Apple, third parties have picked up the slack. No longer supporting QT on Windows by Apple was fixed by Pr & Resolve. So far the things that might have annoyed me that others may not even be aware of have all been fixed by other NLE makers.
So thanks all those NLE software teams that fix the annoying things that other do and keep on giving us amazing new features and performance. For me that doesn’t really include Apple however.
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[Shane Ross] “Even when it wasn’t subscription, we didn’t own it, we purchased the right to use it. “
Yeah, Shane, but that view is splitting hairs to me.
When I paid for X, they allowed me to install and archive a fully functioning program that I could then use essentially in perpetuity.When you’re stuck in the rental model, if you don’t keep paying, they have the right to cut you off from the enabling technology that gives you access to your OWN intellectual property — unless you start paying them again.
That’s a VERY different kettle of fish to my thinking.
The reason for Adobe’s change might be totally legit IP and licensing issues.
But the EFFECT of making all the legacy “permanent license” software basically illegal to use going forward – is that anyone with a library of Adobe work done at anytime in the past – is being forced to update into their “pay to play” ecosystem or they lose full access to their own historical IP work going forward.
And that’s just not how the Apple or Black Magic ecosystems operate.
Different business models. One that ensures (as much as possible) customer access to their creative work in perpetuity without any additional cost – and one that definitely does not.
Ergo, my extra smidgen of happiness tonight!
Which you haven’t diminished it one iota, my friend!
Have a great week!
Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
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Well, except the issue at hand is AC3, which Apple also used in the “legacy” products. If you are currently using these to create product that utilizes AC3, you may well be in violation of the same issues. Regardless of whether or not you “bought” the FCP bundle. I don’t know that for a fact, as that’s for lawyers to decide. But in theory, it’s a concern.
What is the status of AC3 in FCPX?
Oliver
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[Bill Davis] “my email pinged with a link to fat digital check for a recent gig.
A gig was executed rapidly and smoothly thanks to FCP X.
Which has caused me to be EXTREMELY grateful in a few areas. “I also just got a check for a gig, although it was slender enough to make it through my mailbox, but still I am grateful for –
My feet, which cost me nothing but maintenance, and which I own in perpetuity, and without which I would be unable to walk to work. So just a shout out to them 10 little piggies, and you know who you are.
Thank you.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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I would also venture to add that if you purchased a used copy of the legacy suite on e-bay and not from Apple or an authorized reseller, then any licenses included with the software are not valid for you; therefore all product you produce with that software is in violation. Such is the reality of “owning” software.
– Oliver
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[Bill Davis] “And that’s just not how the Apple or Black Magic ecosystems operate.”
Actually that is how Apple operates in a way. When they cut the cord with FCP7, they also cut the cord with a number of 3rd party technologies that they deemed too old, no matter how useful.
There are plenty of stories of applications purchased through the App Store that have been dropped by Apple, leaving those customers out in the cold.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Bill Davis] “Different business models. One that ensures (as much as possible) customer access to their creative work in perpetuity without any additional cost – and one that definitely does not.”
Hmmm…I see how Apple allows us to do that, by cutting loose a hugely popular editing application completely, and all support for it, and making a completely new one with absolutely ZERO pathway for getting projects from the old one to the new one. Zero. And they had zero plan to do that. They left that up to third party vendors to figure out, instead of helping their extremely loyal user base transition.
“Oh, but sometimes you have to totally burn down the house and start over in order to make the next great leap in technology!” Sorry, tired of hearing that crap. There was a means to convert projects, as evidenced in a third party app coming out to do that…but APPLE ITSELF couldn’t be bothered to do it. Just “F*** YOU…that’s old, this is new, this is better, get over it.”
Yeah…Apple was SO accommodating and so loyal to it’s user base.
I think Adobe’s “rental” policy is completely stupid, and I don’t subscribe to it. My kids do, but because they HAVE to. Photoshop is a requirement at art school, so they are chained in that manner. Personally, I like Avid’s way of “Buy a perpetual license, pay a fee to pay for upgrades and tech support…and those are available to us. But if you stop, you are stuck with the version you have, BUT IT STILL WORKS!” That I like.
Yeah, Apple has made an app that is amazing and great and PERFECT for so many many applications. And is what they needed to do. HOW they did it, sorry, that plus their history of killing things like SHAKE, make them highly untrustworthy. Glad you like them, but I trust them about as far as I can throw them.
Shane
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Bill, you’re teetering on the brink of being a spam poster here.
What is the point of these pro-FCPX productivity posts? Are you that petty? Are you attempting anything other than just throwing fuel on a very dead fire of debate? No wonder things are quiet here in this forum.
The fact that you were able to retrieve a project five years old is great. Does that really have any relevance in most post-production environments? no. A five year old project for most is ancient, out of date and irrelevant.
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