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  • Scott Witthaus

    February 27, 2018 at 1:49 pm

    Very interesting and a control surface to boot! Thanks for sharing.

    Scott Witthaus
    Senior Editor/Visual Storyteller
    https://vimeo.com/channels/1322525
    Managing Partner, Low Country Creative LLC
    Professor, VCU Brandcenter

  • Oliver Peters

    February 27, 2018 at 2:06 pm

    [Scott Witthaus] “and a control surface to boot!”

    It’s interesting that this panel deviates from the norm – no track balls. However, that’s similar to the Koji (Dale Grahn) plug-in controls, which are based on film timing methods and terminology.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

  • Andrew Kimery

    February 27, 2018 at 9:27 pm

    Looks interesting, but I wonder how big the market is for a $299 grading plugin when Color Finale ($149) seems to be the go-to grading plugin for X, and Apple just re-vamped the built-in tools. Also, $1500 seems pretty pricey for only working with the that one plugin.

  • Michael Gissing

    February 28, 2018 at 12:26 am

    Resolve Studio and it’s smaller proprietary panel are the same price. Even cheaper if you are happy with Resolve Free. It sounds a lot like the layer based hierarchy that Color with FCP Studio offered.

    I’m not sure that a control panel sans trackballs is going to impress for that price. I would have thought that the controller would have been cheaper without trackballs.

  • Andrew Kimery

    February 28, 2018 at 2:44 am

    [Michael Gissing] “Resolve Studio and it’s smaller proprietary panel are the same price. “

    The Micro Panel ($999) and Resolve Studio ($299) is much cheaper than FCP X ($299), the Codex plugin ($299) and Codex panel ($1500).

    Resolve is also a well established and widely used which I think makes buying proprietary hardware for it an easier pill to swallow. I don’t imagine many colorists are going to take projects edited in PPro or Avid and bring them into FCP X so they can grade using the Codex plugin and panel. For projects that originate in X you can already use panels with Color Finale and X’s revamp first-party tools.

    I think Codex really needs to blow the doors off what’s currently available, and hope there is a lot of untapped demand for mind blowing, high end color tools in X, if they want people to fork over $1800.

  • Michael Gissing

    February 28, 2018 at 3:39 am

    I wasn’t including the price of X on the assumption that it was comparing using this for current X users to buying Resolve’s offerings. Even though Resolve is cheaper and more capable, I’m sure there are those that want to stay within their NLE of choice as I want to do within Resolve.

    I’d want to know a lot more about masks, tracking those masks and how the layers interact before passing any further judgment on the grade tools.

  • Bill Davis

    February 28, 2018 at 4:28 pm

    Considering the names involved behind this – it looks like some major players are betting that the penetration of FCP X into ever larger facility workflows will continue.

    Plus, the thing itself looks like it’s something a highly skilled colorist could easily toss (with a dependable OLED or FSI flat panel monitor) into a carryon bag and go knock out high end grades as, when, and where needed.

    It’s a crazy new world out there.

    Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
    The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

  • Oliver Peters

    February 28, 2018 at 5:13 pm

    [Bill Davis] “Considering the names involved behind this – it looks like some major players are betting that the penetration of FCP X into ever larger facility workflows will continue. “

    Actually, I’m not sure that’s the intent. Codex offers location tools and this fits into the wheelhouse of DITs and on-set editor-colorists. FCPX is ideal in that world and so that might be Codex’s target user. Not to mention, the price tag is fine for a DIT, where there’s less price sensitivity than in the greater FCPX world. After all, a DIT cart alone is a lot more money than this software.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

  • Bill Davis

    February 28, 2018 at 6:08 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “Not to mention, the price tag is fine for a DIT, where there’s less price sensitivity than in the greater FCPX world. After all, a DIT cart alone is a lot more money than this software.

    That makes sense, Oliver.

    Thanks for the clarification.

    Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
    The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

  • Andrew Kimery

    February 28, 2018 at 7:29 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “FCPX is ideal in that world and so that might be Codex’s target user.”

    Resolve is pretty established in this on-set/DIT role is it not? What advantages do you see w/using X instead?

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