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Multicam “Focus”
So it seems they used Multicam mode a lot for cutting the film. When I saw the Ripple tutorial for cutting single camera in Multicam mode it was a lightbulb moment for me. What a perfect solution. Is this FCPX’s most powerful feature?
I have no idea if I could have worked this way in Legacy or could work this way in Avid or Premiere.
I can’t see any advantage or point to cutting single/ camera multi take drama any other way.
Thoughts?
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[James Ewart] “Is this FCPX’s most powerful feature?”
It’s definitely one of its most powerful features. FCPX multicam is far and away better than any other NLE I’ve tried owing to its versatility.
[James Ewart] “I have no idea if I could have worked this way in Legacy or could work this way in Avid or Premiere.”
You would not want to try that workflow in Avid or FCP7 as making changes to existing multiclips is difficult at best. Although, I did work on a show where we did recreations and I asked the AEs to multigroup the takes for me with limited success. So, I suppose it’s not completely out of the realm for those NLEs. It’s just you gain a lot by being able to open a multiclip and adjust it. I’m not positive, but I think you can adjust Premiere multiclips in a similar way to FCPX.
Andy
https://plus.google.com/u/0/107277729326633563425/videos
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I haven’t seen the video you are talking about. Do you have link or can you explain the gist of what you are talking about?
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I liked the part where they talked about how they made Auditions, and how they had almost every take in every scene available to them. I work the same way, and it is by far the most creative way I’ve edited dialogue. Nearly everything is right there at your fingertips, or not far away, and Auditions save their individual edit points. Combine this with the magnetic timeline, where everything will shift around the primary, it really does allow immersive access to the footage/scene.
Auditioned multiclips would be even better. This way, you have the Audition clip edited for time, and the multi clip for angle, and then you could independently choose each of those (take and angle) and watch each one, in context with the rest of the edit with a few keystrokes.
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While this is an interesting discussion – although I can’t imagine personally using multicam this way for dialogue options – I don’t believe the Ripple method is how the “Focus” team used multicam. Like many films, they shot scenes with two or more cameras on scenes. These are synced or grouped into multicam clips, because they cover the same event at the same time and with sync TC (or marker). That’s pretty standard and easily done in FCP 7, PrPro and/or MC.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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[Andy Neil] “I’m not positive, but I think you can adjust Premiere multiclips in a similar way to FCPX.”
You can.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Oliver Peters] “although I can’t imagine personally using multicam this way for dialogue options”
The article states that they had to break apart the multi clips and make Auditions. They couldn’t make multiclip Auditions, although they really wanted to. This would allow you to pick the best take, and then pick the best angle of that take. It would be awesome.
Instead the assistant made Audition clips of every take, including the angle which of course, isn’t as elegant.
This would allow auditioning of all of the takes, and all of the angels of that take. That would be pretty sweet.
Jeremy
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[Oliver Peters] “although I can’t imagine personally using multicam this way for dialogue options”
You should try it, it works beautifully.
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Personal preference. I simply don’t like working that way. I also rarely use auditions. Only a few times and it’s generally more trouble than it’s worth for me. I like working with normal multicam, but I dislike that you can’t collapse the clips in X.
As far as comparing different takes, there are a lot of other ways to do that, which I prefer. One way is to build a string out sequence with takes edited back to back according to the line readings.
Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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I’m not massive on auditions either. I tend to use for my favourite two or three takes just so I know I can go back to the other one easily. I always used to stack them in the timeline so Auditions is a ‘better’ option than my previous workflow.
I was away on a course last week and one of the people there was an Avid editor of many years standing. Why would she want to change? I certainly wasn’t going to try and convert her. But she told me she was more curious about FCPX than she had been about 7 or Premiere because it was so different which I thought was interesting.
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[Andrew Kimery] “I haven’t seen the video you are talking about. Do you have link or can you explain the gist of what you are talking about?”
Sorry I can’t find it now can anybody help Andrew please?
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