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  • Paul Jay

    May 9, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    Does it have 4 Thunderbolt ports and osx running?

    Ill wait.

  • Joseph W. bourke

    May 9, 2012 at 7:13 pm

    No, but it has a magical little one-button mouse and thousands of apps.

    Joe Bourke
    Owner/Creative Director
    Bourke Media
    http://www.bourkemedia.com

  • Tim Wilson

    May 9, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    Bob Zelin has already said the same thing about the HP Z820, which we’ll be publishing soon. As he puts it, “OH MY GOD! This is the machine that Apple should build…but never will.”

    He’s also fond enough of the ProMAX ONE to call it the Windows machine he’ll buy if he has to.

    We’ll be able to do a better comparison that includes Dell when there’s more information available, but this is what it’s like to live in a world with true competition: people pushing each other to make better stuff.

    I know that the HP Z1 has gotten grief because it looks like an iMac, but it’s also the iMac Pro that people have talked about…but more muscular than Apple will pull off. To start with, its stock config supports BILLIONS of colors, when Apple’s top of the line standalone display only does millions.

    It also holds twice as much RAM as the top of the line iMac can(FOUR times as much as the entry-level one can hold), has multiple drive bays (want an SSD RAID? No worries – buy cheap drives, pop them in with no tools), and much more.

    Fully loaded it ain’t cheap (about $4K), but it really is a workstation, and not a pretty box that’s being pressed into service that it was never intended for.

    My feeling about Thunderbolt is that, as cool as it is, it’s also a workaround for a problem that none of these machines have. Just like FireWire, everybody will have it eventually…but seriously, if you have a Thunderbolt device that you hafta hafta hafta use today, plenty of adapters…but also seriously, for the stuff most pros own, problem solved with loads of the slots you need until T-bolt comes along….

    Tim Wilson
    Associate Publisher, Editor-in-Chief
    Creative COW Magazine
    Twitter: timdoubleyou

  • Lance Bachelder

    May 9, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    I’d love it if we start seeing Thunderbolt ports and PCIe cards for PC’s – it’s a great technology.

    The thing I like about the Dell over the HP etc is the actual design of the T7600 – for the first time EVER Dell will actually have a nice looking box.

    Lance Bachelder
    Writer, Editor, Director
    Irvine, California

  • Walter Soyka

    May 9, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    [Paul Jay] “Does it have 4 Thunderbolt ports and osx running? Ill wait.”

    Why are these your criteria? Do you need Thunderbolt, or do you need fast expansion? Do you need OS X, or do you need application support?

    If you’re going to run FCPX or Smoke on Mac, you can’t buy a Dell. Or an HP. Or a ProMax. Or a BOXX. Or a Lenovo. Or an ADK. Or a Safe Harbor. Or the parts you need to build one from scratch. You have to buy from Apple.

    For other apps, like Adobe Creative Suite, why not buy a PC? I’m running PCs and Macs side by side, and it really works well.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

  • Lance Bachelder

    May 9, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    Concur Walter – I’m running 2 Mac Pro’s and 2 Win7 workstations at my home office so I always have the best tool available for each job…

    Lance Bachelder
    Writer, Editor, Director
    Irvine, California

  • Michael Sanders

    May 9, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    Sorry but I don’t get it…

    Thunderbolt was designed to bring PCIe connectivity to computers that don’t have room for PCIe cards like laptops.

    The whole point about about a tower is that it has, well room for expansion.

    For a start are we going to see graphics and display card manufactures to incorporate thunderbolt connections which will only work on a hand full of monitors?

    Michael Sanders
    London Based DP/Editor

  • Craig Seeman

    May 9, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    In a world of diminishing budgets the ability to turn it up to 11 has a steep price. Granted sometimes you MUST be able to turn it up to 11 but the relative portion of the market that needs that is decreasing (operative word is relative, not absolute).

    Thunderbolt is another one of those budget conscious solutions. It’s 4xPCIe that’s movable and daisy chainable (depending on the device). You can move your Thunderbolt “whatever” from machine to machine as needed as opposed to buying the “whatever” for each machine. Of course some want a “whatever” for each machine . . . but budgets are declining. And as optical Thunderbolt happens down the road, the market may shift further.

  • Craig Seeman

    May 9, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    [Michael Sanders] “The whole point about about a tower is that it has, well room for expansion.”

    And one can argue that the point of Thunderbolt is that you can move a device from one computer to another rather than have a card anchored internally. One might have Video I/O that you can move to the computer that needs it rather than have one in every computer.

    It’s a variation on the facility debate in the early days of NLEs where the discussions I was involved in was, do we want a VTR next to every Avid, fewer VTRs on carts, a centralized machine room so each NLE would be patched according to its momentary need.

  • Thomas Frank

    May 9, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    Dell… lol hp over Dell anyday… but you know what. Wouldn’t be funny if everybody is riding this Workstation thing and Apple release the killer Workstation that is going in a totally different direction.
    Like the iPhone syndrome. Just guessing but would be funny right?

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