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  • Any of you kids see any cameras at NAB?

    Posted by Tim Wilson on May 5, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    Sorry to break in with something off-topic (hahahahaha!), but I’ve noticed that there hasn’t been much camera chatter besides the obviously intriguing Blackmagic Cinema Camera. What else did you see?

    And if you didn’t go, what are you most interested in hearing more about?

    Thanks…and apologies again for something this far off topic (hahahahahaha!).

    Tim Wilson
    Associate Publisher, Editor-in-Chief
    Creative COW Magazine
    Twitter: timdoubleyou

    Jeremy Garchow replied 14 years ago 17 Members · 32 Replies
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  • Chris Harlan

    May 5, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    [Tim Wilson] “Thanks…and apologies again for something this far off topic (hahahahahaha!).”

    Exactly why should we be talking about cameras when we already have a thread going about hammers?

  • Derek Andonian

    May 5, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    Stop- CAMERATIME!!

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    “THAT’S our fail-safe point. Up until here, we still have enough track to stop the locomotive before it plunges into the ravine… But after this windmill it’s the future or bust.”

  • Glen Hurd

    May 5, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    Because, with guns, hammers are used to fire the primer, which then ignites the cartridge powder . . . and since we’re talking about shooting . . . 🙂

  • Lance Bachelder

    May 5, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    It was a great NAB for cameras! Blackmagic looks intriguing and great price/specs but built-in 90 min. battery and lack of demo footage leaves lots of questions marks…

    Saw the Sony FS700 in Sony 4K Theater – 240fps looks fantastic and $8,000 price is a bargain for this camera especially once they unlock the 4K port. Sony will sell a LOT of FS700’s!

    Canon also had a 4K theater showing the C500 and EOS1D C footage. I thought they were both horribly overpriced until I saw the footage – these 2 cameras will be huge game changers and relative bargains when comparing to Red, Alexa and F65. I’m hoping the 1D C will be ready by the time I start my next feature – love this camera! I expect both these cameras to be used on every type of show in the future from commercials to tent-pole features.

    Big losers were Panasonic and JVC which have both fallen way behind in the digital cinema camera realm with JVC going strictly for news shooters and Panasonic showing a “prototype” Varicam? Weird.

    Nikon had a booth for the first time showing their HDMI DSLR’s but didn’t really know how to set up a booth with relatively tiny LCD’s here and there which really didn’t tell you what their cameras are capable of. But they do seem to be listening to users and wanting to make inroads into digital cinema…

    Lance Bachelder
    Writer, Editor, Director
    Irvine, California

  • Chris Harlan

    May 5, 2012 at 6:37 pm

    [Lance Bachelder] “Saw the Sony FS700 in Sony 4K Theater – 240fps looks fantastic and $8,000 price is a bargain for this camera especially once they unlock the 4K port. Sony will sell a LOT of FS700’s!”

    I saw amazing slo-mo footage from this. It drives me nuts that nothing I do will ever justify me purchasing it.

  • Steve Connor

    May 5, 2012 at 7:14 pm

    [Lance Bachelder] “Blackmagic looks intriguing and great price/specs but built-in 90 min. battery and lack of demo footage leaves lots of questions marks…

    Not sure why the battery thing is drawing so much heat on the forums, most cameras don’t even have built in batteries. It will work with external batteries too.

    [Lance Bachelder] “Saw the Sony FS700 in Sony 4K Theater – 240fps looks fantastic and $8,000 price is a bargain for this camera especially once they unlock the 4K port. Sony will sell a LOT of FS700’s!”

    We’re certainly getting one!

    Steve Connor
    “FCPX Professional”
    Adrenalin Television

  • Steve Connor

    May 5, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    [Lance Bachelder] “Blackmagic looks intriguing and great price/specs but built-in 90 min. battery and lack of demo footage leaves lots of questions marks…

    Not sure why the battery thing is drawing so much heat on the forums, most cameras don’t even have built in batteries. It will work with external batteries too.

    [Lance Bachelder] “Saw the Sony FS700 in Sony 4K Theater – 240fps looks fantastic and $8,000 price is a bargain for this camera especially once they unlock the 4K port. Sony will sell a LOT of FS700’s!”

    We’re certainly getting one!

    Steve Connor
    “FCPX Professional”
    Adrenalin Television

  • Bobby Mosca

    May 5, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    I think Blackmagic’s battery situation cuts down a bit on its mobility. External batteries aren’t as clean to deal with. Everything I do is on location, so it is something I would have to address. My 2 cents.

    It is only the first attempt to wade into the DSLR market with a dedicated video product at that price point and quality (supposedly), so there is sure to be more to come. I would wait to see what comes next.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 5, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    Ooooo. Another juicy topic.

    If you think it’s difficult to choose an NLE/OS platform, cameras have it beat by an order of magnitude.

    I, personally do not hold a camera, but I go to a lot of shoots, talk with a healthy stable of freelance DPs that partner with us, and we own cameras. I approach it from a post side (of course) and the DPs that I talk to want to know what we want, and I want to know what they want in the field. We try and come up with the best solution for any given job.

    It used to be that you hire a DP and their camera. These days, DPs in my area anyway, don’t own cameras anymore. They own support gear and maybe some lenses, and of course they have a camera that they own, but they don’t use it on every single shoot. It’s just as crazy for DPs out there as they have to ram to speed on a big plethora of camera formats, limitations, shooting formats, media requirements, menus, tricks and know-hows, lenses and their formats, separate audio (or not) as well as keeping it all in focus.

    It seems that on all of our recent shoots for the last 2 years or so, there’s no less than two different media types, and usually there’s three. Not a big deal as all NLEs can handle it, but they all handle formats a little differently.

    For our particular business, the race to 4k is not a race we need to run at the moment. We do use reds/Epics every once in a while, they make great pictures, but we never post/deliver in 4k and don’t see that changing real soon. You never know, but ultra high resolution isn’t the first consideration for our gigs.

    I will have to reserve judgement for the Blackmagic camera once we see real pictures. The battery limitation is real consideration for us. Yes, you can hook it up to other power, and yes, other cameras have extenr

  • Tim Wilson

    May 5, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “These days, DPs in my area anyway, don’t own cameras anymore. They own support gear and maybe some lenses, and of course they have a camera that they own, but they don’t use it on every single shoot.”

    Veering a little off topic (hahahaha!!!) from my own (off) topic, but okay, what are you and your Chicagoland peeps tending to use? Why?

    [Jeremy Garchow] “You never know, but ultra high resolution isn’t the first consideration for our gigs.”

    What IS the first consideration?

    Tim Wilson
    Associate Publisher, Editor-in-Chief
    Creative COW Magazine
    Twitter: timdoubleyou

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