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Who was The Target For FCP X?
Posted by Greg Burke on July 8, 2011 at 1:52 amTHis guy does web videos but I don’t think FCP-X would work for even him.
https://www.gametrailers.com/video/the-making-screwattack/717056
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Michael Largé
July 8, 2011 at 3:01 amI usually remain quiet but there’s a nasty snobbery on these forums ever since FCPX released that’s become quite uncomfortable. I have zero problem with people venting or feeling betrayed by Apple and I believe they should be allowed to communicate this freely. That said, there’s a strong vibe being put out by a great deal of members (not everyone) that since they deem FCPX to be a non-pro application, it’s target audience must obviously be a bunch of dummies. This is evident in the numerous threads which have a “Look! Apple made FCPX for idiots like this!” feel. I’m not bothered one bit by all the criticism leveled against FCPX, but to demean people because they create and work on internet videos is quite another.
I bring this up because the guy in question – James Rolfe a.k.a The Angry Video Game Nerd – went from being a so-called “youtuber” to landing a steady job because of the huge audience he gained from his videos. Sure, he’s not producing ‘The Sopranos’ or ‘Law and Order’ every week, but he shouldn’t be looked down upon because he makes his living on the web.
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Greg Burke
July 8, 2011 at 3:24 amI love this Guy! I don’t look down on him at all, I was just trying to get an Idea because it seems that FCP X wouldn’t do what James needs it for. Thats all. I love James!!!!
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Greg Burke
July 8, 2011 at 3:32 amI mean Fcp doesn’t even support psd files! And if pros can’t use fcpx and people like James and I can’t use it. Who was it made for? I’m starting to thin that this program was designed for moms and dads. I have it I’m learning I’m using it but so far it’s what it seems like.
iPhone typing please excuse errors.
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John Pale
July 8, 2011 at 4:07 amOddly enough, I asked Randy Ubilios the same question…”Who was the target for FCPX?”
He replied “Aindreas Gallagher” without hesitation.
I think he made a miscalculation, but I am not quite sure.
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Greg Burke
July 8, 2011 at 4:14 amI wish I could do work like that. Same goes for https://www.screwattack.com I would Jump at the Chance to work for them. WHO Beta Tested FCO X and thought it was okay to Add FINAL CUT anywhere on the Product. IM not being a smart ass I’m honestly asking.
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Bret Williams
July 8, 2011 at 4:41 amHow’d you get through to Randy? Would you tell him to accept my FaceBook request? I did try actually. Why not.
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Michael Largé
July 8, 2011 at 5:17 am[Greg Burke] “I love this Guy! I don’t look down on him at all, I was just trying to get an Idea because it seems that FCP X wouldn’t do what James needs it for. Thats all. I love James!!!!”
The way you phrased your post made it sound to me as though you thought FCPX wouldn’t work “EVEN for him” (a lowly web videographer). As if to say, even a web person isn’t able to use it. It appears I was in error and I extend a sincere apology to you. I’m just a tired of seeing so many threads that put down people of different professional backgrounds.
[Greg Burke] “I mean Fcp doesn’t even support psd files! And if pros can’t use fcpx and people like James and I can’t use it. Who was it made for? I’m starting to thin that this program was designed for moms and dads. I have it I’m learning I’m using it but so far it’s what it seems like.
I understand that criticism and I won’t debate it. I have FCPX and I’m using it on a project right now and personally, while it has tremendous potential, I think it was designed squarely with the iPad in mind. I’m dead serious too. Everything points to that –
– A single viewer for editing is easier on an iPad screen that the viewer/canvas combo.
– It’s an app you download rather than a CD to install (iPads don’t have CD/DVD drives).
– I like a lot of aspects of the new UI, but it clearly lends itself to touchscreen controls.
– The lack of support for customizing a dual monitor set-up. They want you to get used to working on a single screen, ala the iPad.I think it’ll take a couple of years before FCPX reaches it’s full potential, that is, if Apple is interested in doing so. I hope they are because there are some really great things within it.
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David Roth weiss
July 8, 2011 at 5:20 am[Michael Largé] “James Rolfe a.k.a The Angry Video Game Nerd – went from being a so-called “youtuber” to landing a steady job because of the huge audience he gained from his videos. Sure, he’s not producing ‘The Sopranos’ or ‘Law and Order’ every week, but he shouldn’t be looked down upon because he makes his living on the web.”
For the most part, very few filmmakers want to keep working on what they’re working on now, forever. It goes without saying that Youtubers aspire to bigger and better things, as do those working on three million dollar features, who aspire to work on 100 million dollar features.
No one should be looking down on anyone, much less using their experience or expertise to as a gauge of their right to hold a belief one way the other about a piece of bleeping software.
And, experienced pros are no more incapable of adapting to change than a Youtuber or anyone else. Besides editing, editors have to manage and prioritize boatloads of information, details, and decisions, which are done best as the editor sees fit on any given project. The flexibility that FCP has always afforded allowed the editor to establish the priorities, because the system was more adaptable. That adaptability has now been removed by Randy Ubillos and team, so it’s in fact the application which is less adaptable, not those who don’t particularly care for the application or its very rigid UI.
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Michael Largé
July 8, 2011 at 5:51 am[David Roth Weiss] “No one should be looking down on anyone, much less using their experience or expertise to as a gauge of their right to hold a belief one way the other about a piece of bleeping software. “
I couldn’t agree more.
[David Roth Weiss] “And, experienced pros are no more incapable of adapting to change than a Youtuber or anyone else. Besides editing, editors have to manage and prioritize boatloads of information, details, and decisions, which are done best as the editor sees fit on any given project. The flexibility that FCP has always afforded allowed the editor to establish the priorities, because the system was more adaptable. That adaptability has now been removed by Randy Ubillos and team, so it’s in fact the application which is less adaptable, not those who don’t particularly care for the application or its very rigid UI.”
I won’t dispute what you’ve said as I have no reason to, but there are quite a few threads in this forum that convey a strong vibe that if one enjoys FCPX, or even more shocking, prefer it to FCP7, they are not true professionals (since a “real” professional could never utilize such a program). While I have no issue with the loathing FCPX, Apple, Randy, etc., have received, I believe that venom should be directed squarely at Apple and not at people who may find value in the program.
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James Daugherty
July 8, 2011 at 6:10 amFCPX is too complicated for novice users and not powerful enough for professional users.
This is a classic mistake in product positioning.
Only 1600+ units sold. They should have sold over 20K by now.
James Daugherty
President SDFCPUG.com
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