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  • Simon Ubsdell

    June 16, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    The big news story (from the start of part 3) is the one headlined by those great guys at fcp.co, to quote:

    FCPX 1.0 “It will not be ready for professional use” says Larry Jordan

    Now that’s what I call a “jawdropper”!

    Simon Ubsdell
    Director/Editor/Writer
    http://www.tokyo-uk.com

  • Ben Holmes

    June 16, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    [Simon Ubsdell] “The big news story (from the start of part 3) is the one headlined by those great guys at fcp.co, to quote:

    FCPX 1.0 “It will not be ready for professional use” says Larry Jordan

    Now that’s what I call a “jawdropper”!
    “

    Sounds like an extremely measured comment, designed to temper expectations. As he says, Apple have a terrible track record with 1.0 releases, which this is. It doesn’t mean issues and missing features won’t be resolved in the next 12 months – it means Apple think it’s time to get this out there.

    Any one planning major jobs this year (as I am currently, including equipment and FCP purchases) should NOT be considering FCPX for those jobs.

    I will happily, however, purchase Final Cut Studio licenses from eager FCPX adopters who want to cut the cord on day one…

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  • Simon Ubsdell

    June 16, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    [Ben Holmes] “Sounds like an extremely measured comment”

    I’d have said this was more of an educated guess rather than a “revelation” (and it’s not going to change my opinion either way TBH), but it’s likely to stir up a fair amount of comment given the circumstances. Expect feathers to fly!

    I take your point about not diving in straight away, but it will only be by trying it out on real jobs (albeit not mission critical ones!) that we’ll get to know its strengths and weaknesses – you can play around all you like but it’s only the real world situations that give you the feedback you really need.

    Simon Ubsdell
    Director/Editor/Writer
    http://www.tokyo-uk.com

  • Blayne Gorum

    June 16, 2011 at 1:31 pm

    I don’t think Larry was meaning this as a deprecation of Apple or FCP X. Instead, I think it is more of a note of caution based on Apple’s past tendency to use earlier adopters as beta testers. Features will probably be missing and bugs will still be present.

    And then version x.25 comes along and the sun will shine again for the early adopters.

  • Victor Perez

    June 16, 2011 at 2:17 pm

    I can see Avid’s and Adobe’s grin from here.

    Victor
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  • Ben Holmes

    June 16, 2011 at 2:18 pm

    [Simon Ubsdell] “I take your point about not diving in straight away, but it will only be by trying it out on real jobs (albeit not mission critical ones!) that we’ll get to know its strengths and weaknesses – you can play around all you like but it’s only the real world situations that give you the feedback you really need.”

    Well, I don’t really do any work that isn’t critical to my clients, but I think that’s a bit of a simplification. Once we’ve had time to play with it and learn the interface (which I’ll do at home) and done technical tests on compatibility with third-party hardware, software and networks (following the release of drivers for all of these) THEN I’ll use it, IF it does everything I need (XML importing, multiple audio outputs etc.) – but I know I’m a long way from that.

    Not to worry – as I’m also happy with FCP7. And he’s the nice thing: If you’re a camera owner/operator, many clients want you to use the latest toy, best model (“have you seen that new F3/Epic/Alexa?”). If you’re an editor NO ONE CARES what you use, as long as you get the job done in a timely manner to a high standard. And ultimately they’re paying for YOU, not the edit suite.

    So relax – and watch the future of post slowly unfold.

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  • Ben Holmes

    June 16, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    By the way – this thread should probably be called “Larry Jordan DOESN’T speak about FCPX”. I think he said less than you could glean from the sneak peek videos. I think I’d have been a bit bored if I’d gone to the meeting just to hear that..

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  • Simon Ubsdell

    June 16, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    [Ben Holmes] “If you’re an editor NO ONE CARES what you use”

    Mostly this is true – though I have to say in my business there is still quite a bit of snobbery attached to using Media Composer as against FCP.

    And I was very amused to speak to one client only a couple of days after the SuperMeet who’d already heard that “the new FCP is a bit of a dud”.

    Also I think we might find the iMovie “stigma” takes a while to shake off among those many clients who “sort of know a bit about editing” – and I’m sure we’ve all met our share of those.

    Simon Ubsdell
    Director/Editor/Writer
    http://www.tokyo-uk.com

  • Ben Holmes

    June 16, 2011 at 2:38 pm

    You’re probably right, I was overstating this a bit, but it’s fair to say no one cares WHAT VERSION of FCP you are on, and many production staff don’t even notice whether they’re in an FCP or AVID suite in the places I work – really!

    Clients love to engage in a bit of industry banter about this stuff – but all they really care about are results. If they’re happy now, they’ll be happy in 3 months if you’re still using FCP7. That’s all I’m sayin’ really…

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  • Simon Ubsdell

    June 16, 2011 at 2:47 pm

    [Ben Holmes] “Larry Jordan DOESN’T speak about FCPX”

    I wonder what part of NDA the LAFCPUG audience didn’t quite get!?

    Simon Ubsdell
    Director/Editor/Writer
    http://www.tokyo-uk.com

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