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  • AE7!!! Cool stuff

    Posted by Erik Mickelson on October 30, 2005 at 1:32 pm

    https://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/events/max/max2005/video/

    Check out the link and in day two you will find a thumbnail for new AE7! It has particle presets and a unified interface as well as a corve editor (ala shake) in the timeline. The curve editor alone is worth it. Are previews faster? I don’t know for sure, but the demo showed almost realtime particle and greenscreen on a mac! On a mac! I’ll need to test it on a mac though, I just tried a new Dual 2.3 and FCP at the Apple store and it was still dog slow. Maybe they did the AE7 previews on a Quad mac.

    Gary Taylor replied 20 years, 6 months ago 6 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Peter O’connell

    October 30, 2005 at 4:32 pm

    Maybe they rendered that stuff out beforehand

  • Jack Kelly

    October 30, 2005 at 5:29 pm

    AE7! Cool. Adobe are really getting their stuff together.

    Do we have an ETA for AE7 (or will it be called AE CS?!?)

    And will there be a 64-bit WinXP version, I wonder?

    Jack

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  • Mike James

    October 30, 2005 at 9:40 pm

    The only ETA has been Adobe guiding during investor conference calls. For all of 2005 they’ve forcasted the video collection to release in the 4th quarter of ’05. I’m guessing that NABPOST in NY Nov 15-17th or early December at DVExpo West.

    And Total Training is set to be attending DVExpo WEST, but I didn’t see them with a presence at NABPOST NY. So my guess is that Adobe might announce the apps at NABPOST. And I’m assuming that Total Training will have fresh video either ready or available for pre-order at DV Expo WEST.

    Both these events are the final logical events of the year (Q4) to release the new Video Collection.

    Mike James
    VFXpodcast.com

  • Jack Kelly

    October 31, 2005 at 10:48 am

    Great, thanks for the reply!

    Have there been any rumours about there being WinXP 64-bit versions?

    Thanks,
    Jack

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    Jack Kelly
    London
    Dir / Prod / Camera
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  • Gary Taylor

    October 31, 2005 at 2:24 pm

    Or even better, maybe they were using Core Video. We can only dream.
    Gary

  • Erik Mickelson

    November 1, 2005 at 11:18 pm

    Yeah, I know what you are saying. I have made the “switch” back to PC from a previous indentured servitude to the mac platform. I am just counting the years when I can safely go back to the mac platform. I am into 3d and lots of AE work now and the mac is just too slow, no Open GL 2.o support etc…. Steve Jobs turns mac into a never ending hardware upgrade model. A small fact, if I want a new G5, I will have to upgrade most of my mac software because the Jobs has discontinued support for all previous versions of FCP for sure. We will have to wait and see if AE and PS will have to be updated as well. Hmm…the age old flame bait question…PC or Mac?

  • Chris Smith

    November 3, 2005 at 2:27 am

    [Erik] “Hmm…the age old flame bait question…PC or Mac?”

    <2 cents>

    Geez, no 🙂

    I have to admit though I used Macs most of my life and still love them for what I use my laptop for (email, browsing, writing treatments). However for real work, I’ve always used whatever the latest greatest Mac Hardware. But a while ago I built a custom PC for gaming, then we bought an Avid DS which is XP based. Even though I think Windows is a turd of an OS, the hardware options and moddability have really got me hooked. Really fast boxes for half of what the same Apple boxes are. When I built my gaming PC I made a box as fast as an AlienWare box for almost half the cost. As I noted to myself that with AlienWare you are paying quite a premium for it’s style I realised a Mac is no different.

    So I’ll keep dreaming that OSX will run on any PC hardware and have the best of both worlds 🙂

    But in the end, a tool is a tool. But a pleasant OS on cheap modifiable hardware is always sweet to have around.

    Yay AE7! If there isn’t a real color corrector, good trackers, and good roto tools, i’m gonna freak!

    Chris Smith
    https://www.sugarfilmproduction.com

  • Gary Taylor

    November 3, 2005 at 12:27 pm

    Hi Chris,
    That is one of the great things about the industry being the way it is. The current generation of dual processor dual core systems on both sides of the fence are plenty powerful and yet cheap enough that they shouldn’t break the bank for most pros. Of course if you want to to build yown you are certainly able to. I personally like having a OEM that I can point to when things go wrong.

    I have built a number of PCs over the years and I am sure I will again. They are great for software only workstations especially for render only apps. But once you start involving capture cards, HBAs, OS upgrades, OS fixpacks, driver updates for those OS updates. Windows Media updates, QuickTime updates, etc. it can be a nightmare. I once spent 4 days of my life when a home built system was hosed by what appeared then to be a minor OS update, and I resolved not to let it happen again. My time is too valuable. In fact you can pay extra for true workstation support from companies like IBM, and HP which should put someone at your door in 4 hours.

    OEMs like IBM, and HP test their hardware configuration with each supported OS update to see if it breaks anything. If they find a driver doesn’t work with the update then they resolve it or let us know what the issue is. A large OEM like IBM can lean on a sound card manufacturer much easier than you and I can to get a driver update. Left on your own you might be swapping hardware components out for days or weeks until you find out who the offender is.

    Like you I started out on the Mac although since them I have worked mainly on PC, and Unix workstations and servers. I am about to buy a new Dual Dual G5 and I can’t wait. And one thing I love about the Mac is that since Apple is such a large OEM for HD workstation there are pleny of user of AJA and DeckLink cards out there. Chances are someone with a VERY similar hardware configuration has seen a problem before you have and the user community will warn you of a particular update. I guarantee you osme PC users will never know what went wrong because the problem has to do with some small hardware difference. And if you have a great vendor they will be able to quickly release a driver update. Like I said before my time is too valuable to do all the debugging on my own. And best of all the new PowerMac is lower priced than the comparable with OEM PC!
    Gary

  • Chris Smith

    November 3, 2005 at 3:28 pm

    I have to admit since we got this Avid DS, I’m really down on FCP for that same reason. The Avid is gauranteed as an entire package. It works beautifully and reliably. My FCP station still gives me grief at every turn. Whether it’s the Decklink, Quicktime, FCP, or the G5 itself. Frustrating. It’s never a major issue, it’s just always something that gets in the way of a good flow.

    Chris Smith
    https://www.sugarfilmproduction.com

  • Gary Taylor

    November 3, 2005 at 4:17 pm

    Yep, and that is exactly the reason why for what I am buying my first G5 for my studio. Because as bad as these problems are on the Mac I believe the are much worse for PC users where a mandatory update to something like Windows XP service Pack 2 can break a third party vendors driver.

    Sure things with Apple are not nearly as smooth as the will be with a turnkey system from a company like AVID. But since I am paying 1/10 the cost I will try not smile all the way to the bank. Sure I wish I was working on a turn key Inferno but I’ll settle for what I have right now.
    Gary

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