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Just starting out – need advise
Posted by Grant Mcculloch on September 1, 2011 at 5:38 amHi, My first post on the Cow.
I’ve just bought Catdv and I’m still getting my head around it.
What I’ve been doing is copying all my clips to one dedicated drive then giving them keywords in the log notes > notes field.
The problem is if I search one or more keywords that is attached to the one clip its fine but if I use keywords attached to completely different clips I get nothing.
Example, if I had a flower clip and attached keys flower & nature all those come up but if I had another clip that was say a factory and I attached a key of industrial then searched for flower and industrial I thought I would get both those clips but I don’t, I get nothing.
Make sense?
I assume I should be able to do that but obviously I’m doing something wrong.
Can you help?Thanks
Rolf Howarth replied 14 years, 8 months ago 6 Members · 15 Replies -
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Kevin Duggan
September 1, 2011 at 2:24 pmHi Grant
I am only answering this post because Bryson answers everything before me, well not this time buddy…joking
Hey Bryson sleeping on the job , help the man out !
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Kevin Duggan
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Grant Mcculloch
September 1, 2011 at 4:07 pmHe he, thanks Kevin. Can someone go wake Bryson?
I’m itching to get started on my cataloging but I don’t want to waste time if I’m doing something wrong and have to start over.
For now I’ve been doing small test batches to try and figure out a proper system. I did watch Bryson’s one our tut down in Hollywood.
It was very good and I learned a lot but it was more geared to big shop sharing as opposed to my little problem. -
Jason Brown
September 1, 2011 at 5:14 pmFollowing this thread…think im in the same boat as you grant.
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Matthew Stamos
September 1, 2011 at 7:32 pmI suggest creating a multi-grouping list in the user defined fields of the preferences and adding the key words to that list in the pick list section of the preferences. This will be a much more useful way of logging and will also give you more options when searching and sorting.
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Grant Mcculloch
September 1, 2011 at 7:56 pmWhoa … I’m going to have to do a lot more manual reading before I can understand that. Thanks for the time though.
I believe my way of thinking is wrong. The program wants to narrow the search with more keywords and I want to expand it. I basically want to enter keywords apple and orange and have a clip of an apple and a clip of an orange come up. Not one clip with both an apple and orange in it.
I realize this is a very powerful application but I just want to start out real simple and dive in deeper from there.
On first thought naming conventions seem easy enough but the more thought that’s put into it it’s obvious how complicated it can be.BTW, is just using the notes field ok to start out with for keywords or am I already on the wrong track.
The manual is fairly deep but it doesn’t really give much on the basics.
I know I’ll finally get my head around it. Went through this with FCS, PS, Dreamweaver etc.Thanks for helping get me through my new awkward stage.
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Grant Mcculloch
September 1, 2011 at 8:47 pmHey Matt, just found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WofRj-4QRE&feature=related and you’re hosting it.
Haven’t watched it yet but the contents page looks promising.
Hopefully I’ll check back here in an hour after watching as an enlightened man. -
Grant Mcculloch
September 1, 2011 at 10:41 pmQuote: I suggest creating a multi-grouping list in the user defined fields of the preferences and adding the key words to that list in the pick list section of the preferences. This will be a much more useful way of logging and will also give you more options when searching and sorting.
Ok, I’ve figured that out and am doing it but I still have the same problem. This is driving me nut’s, I’ve been all day at this.
Very informative video BTW but I still can’t figure out why I draw a blank using two or more keywords assigned to different clips. -
Matthew Stamos
September 1, 2011 at 11:16 pmOk now that you have these in a list they will appear on the right hand side under automatic grouping all fields so you can sort the values here. You may want to add this to the shortcuts by right clicking on the field. You may also choose to search in the notes or keywords fields specifically by using the find or query buttons at the top. Identified by the magnifying glass icons. The query button is only available when connected to the server.
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Grant Mcculloch
September 1, 2011 at 11:50 pmOk thanks, I think I’m getting somewhere but still trying to get my head around it.
If I select a clip and put a keyword in the user1 field it creates a folder to the left in that group. Fine. Then if I click that folder it brings up that clip. Fine. If I control click to highlight both folders it get both the clips. Also fine. But if I put both those keywords in the search field It’s ok with the one word but goes blank with the two. It would be nice to just type in search words and get those clips. Again maybe I’m not looking at this right.
And I’m really sorry for this question but what is a “value” when I click on the folder on my group bin? Is a value just a keyword or something else? -
Grant Mcculloch
September 2, 2011 at 1:54 amAHA!! I just got my head around it! I’ve been trying to use keywords to expand my search not narrow it down.
I’m using a combo of groups and the notes field and it seems to be a workable workflow.Thanks Matt!
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