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Resolve and UltraScope
Posted by John Cox on February 24, 2012 at 8:42 amJust wondering, is there a place for the UltraScope product with Resolve? Using a PC, BTW, could one use the UltraScope PCI card in the same system as a Decklink Card or would you have to use the USB3 version via SDI out from the Decklink card? Basically wondering if there would be any advantage/disadvantage to having a dedicated 6-monitor display vs using the monitors already built into Resolve.
Thanks.
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Robert Houllahan
February 24, 2012 at 3:24 pmI think you need to have a separate PC for Ultrascope because there will be GPU resource conflicts between the two apps.
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Kevin Cannon
February 24, 2012 at 3:37 pmHi John,
I use the ultrascope running on a separate windows machine, running side-by-side with Resolve on a Mac Pro. I occasionally work in another suite where I have to use the built-in Resolve scopes on a second monitor and here are my thoughts:
– The ultrascope is much higher resolution – smaller parts of the frame (say, a streetlight in the background or a specular highlight on a face) can be very difficult to see on the Resolve scopes, or may not appear at all.
– The ultrascope refreshes much more rapidly, so you can watch a shot play in real-time and see the scope move in real-time, which can be helpful for moving lighting effects, strobe flashes, etc…
– The Resolve scopes take up a significant amount of resources which seems to impair performance. I tend to work with the Resolve scopes while doing R3D without a rocket card… it definitely slows things down.
They don’t recommend using the Ultrascope on the same machine as Resolve itself, possibly others have attempted it but I would just consider an old $400 HP workstation part of the cost of the ultrascope…
Cheers,
KC
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Paul Provost
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Joseph Owens
February 25, 2012 at 12:30 amI’m going to add this comment for the record.
Admittedly there is a price difference, but unless a scope offers a YRGB parade, it is of limited value to color grade. RGB-only does not and cannot give any sense of the derived Luminance (Y’) value. If you cannot see and measure your absolute white/black point, this pretty much overrides any of the economies of non-real-time, sampled software scopes. Also, very, very few software scopes can offer accurate Y+C legal gamut evaluation.
I am surprised that Resolve does not have better internal numeric/waveform/vector display, since it was daVinci (the original manufacturer) who was militant about getting measurement right, and providing as much data to an operator as possible. Trainers like Bruce Graham starting hammering this into trainees on Day One if you were on one of his courses at Lauderdale-by-the-Sea (and that was 18 years ago this month, for me.)
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You mean “Old Ben”? Ben Kenobi?
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John Cox
February 25, 2012 at 6:58 amThanks for the info.
I read the similar thread regarding the vectorscope issues in the Apple Color forum (https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/223/19838) and my copy of Color Correction Handbook: Professional Techniques for Video and Cinema has already been ordered.
With that in mind, what is your recommendation for using Resolve and getting the color right? I went to the Harris site to check out their products. Is there a particular Harris product that would fit the bill? (YRGB parade?)
Thanks again for the info.
John
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