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wrong referenced quicktime and lost grades
hi
so i graded this 60min tv doco and because it had more then 1000 edits the edl came short.
i worked around is by saving a new quicktime from the master file which started exactly where the edl stopped
working. i took it into the mediapool did a scene detection split it up and edited it into the conformed timeline exchanging the part that was not split up before.i had some other sequences coming in later cause changes were made to the original film
so i brought these short clips in aswell, again scene detect etc and finished the grade.after exporting and deilvering i got a call from the editor that from the tc where i inserted my own scene detected material into the master timeline (again:because of the 1000 edit limitation mature of edls) the quicktime references was not the one intended but another one that i brought into the mediapool later (only 1:11min long so not too bad).
so i forced the clips to link to the original quicktime but lost all the grades too.has anyone experienced this before?
is it me or resolve behaving weird here?hope i made my point 😉
any tips highly appreciated!
cheerz
mark—
Mark Wagner
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Mark, I’ve been experiencing this quite a bit with resolve 8. If I bring in any additional media to a project (after having graded for a while) and there is identical timecode with the new media and existing media on the timeline, Resolve will default to the new media and replace it in the timeline (losing your grade in the process). Of course you can, as you know, go back and identify the conflicting clip (marked with a C on the timeline) and “Resolve” the conflict by selecting the previous clip again (or using force conform to selected clip in media pool), BUT you lose your grade as you’ve alluded to, which is EXTREMELY frustrating.
I’m not sure if Resolve 7 did this, but I’m pretty sure it did not (7 would default to the original clip in a timeline instead of automatically replacing it with the newly added media pool clip with identical timecode, I believe).
I’m really hoping that there’s a fix for this, as I’m always adding last minute VFX additions and other shots and its been a time-killer for me and a bit embarrassing with clients in the room having to go back and re-insert and regrade a bunch of shots at the end of a session. Anyone have a fix?
Chris Hall
Colorist – Basher Films
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i hope this has been fixed with v8.1 then…
need to try out…let me know what you find out?!
cheerz
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Mark Wagner
Colorado | Berlin -
Because of this, I have based our workflow on using pre-conforms and pre-conforms only. We do spots, no long form stuff, so it’s not a big deal for us to just output a new pre-conform when vfx are completed and replace the image sequence right under resolve’s nose. I find it quite ridiculous that doing ANYTHING other than a basemem or delete node can cause one to lose grades. I also find it ridiculous that there seems to be no way to lock down a conform to make sure resolve doesn’t decide on its own to start linking shots to different or newly added media.
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Just sent a report request in to blackmagic and linked to our thread. Hoping that they might have a solution.
Chris Hall
Colorist – Basher Films
Pasadena, CA -
it happened to me as well .
agree that should be a way to Lock the timeline in a way that when a new shot with same TC is added to the media pool resolve will not replace it by it self , i thought that having the “lock” turned on on the timeline could work , but seems not , also turning off force conform does not seems to be efficient anyway (i have to double check this though …)
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yeah I’ve tried both of those ideas as well, no luck.
Chris Hall
Colorist – Basher Films
Pasadena, CA -
Would this work to prevent Resolve from re-linking new media w/ identical timecode over top of old?
Import your new media (the identical timecode stuff that Resolve automatically inserts for you) to a new subfolder named ‘v2’ or whatever you like. Verify that the clip has updated in your timeline to replace new media in place of old. Now right-click in timeline and ‘Reconform from folders’ DESELECTING ‘v2’. Confirm that your ‘old media’ is back in place with its original grade.
Not super-convenient, but seems workable.
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I’ve been frustrated by this issue for a while. The curious thing is that sometimes when I bring in an updated VFX shot into the media pool, Resolve swaps the shot in the timeline and keeps the grade!? I haven’t been able to track down when it works and when it doesn’t, all I know is that when it doesn’t it’s a major issue, especially because you could unknowingly output your finished program with ungraded shots. DaVinci must put control of shot replacement into the hands of the colorist! I deal with this in nearly every job I do and it’s a time killer as well as a huge liability.
Enough complaining. To protect against this, I’ve gotten into the habit of saving stills of shots to be replaced so I have them available in case the grades disappear. Of course you have to redo all your tracks and keyframes which is a bummer. It’s also a good idea to duplicate your project before doing any major replacements.
roman hankewycz
harbor film company // colorist
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