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thanks apple and goodbye color…hello my new best friend
Posted by Kim Krause on June 27, 2011 at 9:04 pmafter much hesitation it would seem as if apple has done me a huge favor. i will now be able to take on all those avid and premier jobs that in the past i had to refuse because i only used color. automatic duck was okay for awhile but i have finally given up after 4 very fruitful years (apple pun intended) and am going over to the other side. me and davinci are about to be re-united and i have the folks at apple to thank! thanks randy and steve, you have freed me from the chains of color!
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Darin Wooldridge
June 27, 2011 at 10:21 pmGreat news Kim,
Glad you’ve finally seen the light. 😉 I seem to remember some very negative posts from you.. lol You will be very happy apple forced your hand.
NOTE: The comments above are strictly mine, and may not necessarily
represent those of my employers.Darin Wooldridge
Colorist / Technical Strategist
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Kim Krause
June 27, 2011 at 10:33 pmi didnt think i was being very negative at the time. resolve, in its older version, wouldn’t do a few of the things that i liked in color. there was no multi layer time line and curves were not really there yet. and roundtripping (xml import and export) from fcp to davinci was a painful experience. plus it cost more than the whole fcp studio together. now that it has become more “color like” and the hardware requirements have also been lowered i can truly consider giving up color. the release of fcpx was just the push i needed. i still love color and i was really hoping apple would have blown the doors off davinci but i can finally see that is not going to happen anytime soon. i just hope the new version of resolve will work with my ipad or i’ll have to go out and spend even more money on a tangent controller…… guess i better just breathe in and jump!
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Christopher Adams
June 28, 2011 at 12:42 pmGood to see you jumping in. BTW there are a few used Tangents up for sale on here as of late. May want to take a look. I also came from color to davinci. Sure i miss the fxroom most of all but if you alter your thinking more like always working in the fxroom it will help. I love nodes and won’t ever go back. I also did a bunch of work with Nuke and Eyeon’s Fusion. So i guess the Nodes vs. layers thing was decided in my brain early on. Still I am looking forward to V8 and hope that things go well for you.
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Joseph Mastantuono
June 28, 2011 at 1:43 pmI made the jump last year, and I don’t miss color much, and I don’t think I’ll miss it at all once v8 hits
Joseph Mastantuono
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Darin Wooldridge
June 28, 2011 at 4:57 pmMaybe negative was the wrong choice of words.. How is reluctant to change, and clearly afraid to spend the needed cash on a good product.. ” Ipad for a control surface..” come on..Kim. lol
Remember when a color bay cost about 1.5 million to build..Coming from the professional post house with professional tools my sights were set high.
I too built a final cut system when it first arrived on the market. I did a few jobs. It worked but not that well. I built a final touch bay, played around with speed grade, lustre, evan premier pro. Now it was getting better but still way off the pro mark.. Then mac killed final touch and it was down hill from there.
I’m now able to run at home with what I use at the office. The only thing I feel its missing is real time functionality. The 2k paired with a clipster or hdcamsr is a awesome tool.NOTE: The comments above are strictly mine, and may not necessarily
represent those of my employers.Darin Wooldridge
Colorist / Technical Strategist
818-653-3918-cell
dwooldridge@mac.com
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Joseph Owens
June 28, 2011 at 5:23 pmDarin,
Kim was one of the first colorists I ever worked with (back in the days when I was purely an online editor). He pushed a lot of film, and was one of the first electronic colorists, putting up with a Corporate System 60XL (joysticks) for a lot of years, but what came down from telecine was always what we asked for. He also operated one of those StarTrek-flight-deck daVinci Classics for awhile — no joyballs – all knobs. And when I read old-timers’ reminiscing about Dubners… glad I was editing. So he knows what control panels are for. But I can certainly vouch for the reluctance to spend money.
There have been some heated exchanges going on over the past week — really since the NAB Supermeet, which have been somewhat entertaining. Hard to figure out these days whether an expenditure is an investment or a dead-end waste.
I saw a very cynical bit of business advice written in a commerce magazine a couple of years ago, but over the intervening time, I’ve learned to appreciate the sentiment. Especially since June 21. The wisdom passed along was to make sure you charge as much as you can for your services… since for the most part your suppliers certainly are. (I’ve toned down the language and the sentiment a LOT, because it was a Brooklyn-based contractor-type enterprise, mostly eff-bomb vocabulary, so you get it.) Now this might be foreign-thinking for employees… but as a business owner, it reads more like a sermon from the clouds.
jPo
You mean “Old Ben”? Ben Kenobi?
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Kim Krause
June 28, 2011 at 7:24 pmthanks for the endorsement joe….and darin, i really appreciate your feedback and opinions. i have been waiting for davinci to give me the functionality i always had with color and as i’ve mentioned in previous posts, i am unfortunately tied into a very strict economic reality down here in south africa. our budgets are a fraction of north american productions and as a result the money put aside for post reflects that reality. added to the fact that hardware costs us nearly twice as much and you can see why i have been draggin my heels. i would really love to have a tangent but the cost for me would be over 1 months salary. and i still manage to crank out about 100 shows a year……i’m now just waiting for the free davinci lite to be released so i can test drive it and make sure my hardware will support it.
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Darin Wooldridge
June 28, 2011 at 7:38 pmKim I understand completly. I’m still milking out my old 08 mac pro.
I really dont want to buy a 3rd mac pro.. Considering the current developments with apple, I may never buy another one. 🙂Sounds like we come from similar telecine backgrounds. Much respect.
If you have any questions feel free to ask.NOTE: The comments above are strictly mine, and may not necessarily
represent those of my employers.Darin Wooldridge
Colorist / Technical Strategist
818-653-3918-cell
dwooldridge@mac.com
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Joseph Mastantuono
June 29, 2011 at 3:11 pmI told a friend of mine that my next Mac Pro would probably not be a mac pro but a windows box… And he was shocked and didn’t believe me. With so many moving to Premiere and that there are drive solutions to attach mac drives now…
And if Resolve worked on windows, it would be a no brainer. Slam 2 of the latest nVidia cards, liquid cooling, fast CPU, custom rack-mountable cases, more than 4 internal drives… All for a similar price as a Mac Pro? That CUDA also accelerates Premiere?
Starts to make you think… Also, the idea that I will no longer have to wait forever to use modern video cards… REALLY starts to make you think.
Joseph Mastantuono
Online Editor – Colorist – Post Consultant
Brooklyn based finishing at reasonable prices
917.969.1583
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