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Attn BM: business model proposal for new features
My suspicion is that BM probably went in guns blazing to get to a stable 7.1, and will probably slow down for a while to let the team recover.
Meanwhile we have all these missing features, some of which are even deal-breakers for certain jobs.
Here’s an idea…
What if we could “pre-order” new features? Using a model like kickstart.com, I’d pre-pay say $500 for a curves tool module or a multi-track timeline module. BM keeps their core programming team on task, but figures out they’d need $50k worth of additional programmers to make feature X happen. Once enough people pre-pay to hit the $50k mark, they charge our credit cards and start developing that “module”. But no one would be charged unless/until that happens.
(I illustrated the idea with a “modularized” approach for simplicity purposes only. Its the idea not the implementation I’m going for.)
Thoughts?
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This might sound like a good idea to others. To me, it does not. I’d rather request something and live in the hope than being promised something that will take loads of unknown time to get. Once we know “ok, go!” on the programming, we’ll be dying to know “are we there yet?” instead of actually using the great tools we have today.
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Hey Blase ,
That is the jim jannard (red digital cinema owner) model!…I would not mind at all pay for upgrades that have those kind of big new features
I think that resolve being at 1k price Brought in (and I respect everybody off course) so many non professional colorist that make the all support list or inquires or features request a bit of a caos …
So being a “professional” colorist I would not mind have the BMD theam being open to “big updates ” that require to pay money .
So if that is they to have resolve growing versus a commercial multimeline and more conforming tools features … I am in .
Because as I said in the other thread ,we should not consider resolve as 1K system … (I spent 40K on resolve on a Mac and others in Linux spent 120K)…
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Hi, no slow down here. We have plenty of good feedback from professional colorists and new users too so don’t for a moment think we are taking a break. We also have a number of new grading tools in our plans. Stay tuned.
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Thanks Peter ,
Don’t forget HUE curves on those new tools …
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might as well throw Saturation curves on there as well. 🙂
oh oh.. and custom tangent wave mapping. 😀
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And for all these new curves (HUE, SAT…) I’ll send you some swiss chocolats.
réalisateur, scénariste, monteur
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My question here is what are you trying to achieve? Maybe you should post something you’re having trouble with and the guys here can give you some advice on the quickest/best way to handle it. As long as an image doesn’t violate an NDA obviously.
There’s colorists that can run circles around the average guy using a 2K Plus and I’ve seen a guy rocking the DUI like no one’s business. His dailies looked better than most colorist’s final grades. They’ve “gotten by” all these years with those tools and now Resolve is a step up from that.
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You probably already know this, but I’m going to say it anyway. As far as curves go, they’re basically just hue/luma/saturation keys spread out over the entire spectrum. A few custom powergrades can cover almost everything you’ll need to get access to those same controls. You won’t need to grab the mouse to tweak little sections of a line either.
For example, using a Hue only key on whatever area the skin lives in an image is basically the same as using a curve to manipulate flesh tones. Adjusting the fall off emulates the separate keyframes used to smooth out the curve.
Yes, it’d be great to have those curves as an option, but unless I’m color/contrast blind, I get the same results by other means just as fast with basic adjustable presets.
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yes Illya . you’re right.
Black Magic is doing an excellent job, everyone need to learn how it works 100% and then start asking new tools, but the essential.
Because we can combine many of them and have very good results.
my 2k plus only have 6 PW, and now i say only. )) becouse now in Resolve i have 12PW very easy and a lots off other things at the same time.i Hope Black Magic continue to develop this excellent product that is the DaVinciR
Nuno
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Ilya,
I’ll keep my response professional. These are legitimate concerns. Your implications that we’re requesting additional toolsets because we don’t understand how to thoroughly make use of the current ones is off base and counterproductive to our mutual cause.
When a client delivers a 5 layer timeline of R3D material with 3 layers of interweaving dissolves and a 12 hour deadline, I need a tool that can actually do the job. Right now my options are:
a: lose the client
b: do the job in another packageI spend 30-60 hours a week on a Resolve box. The current toolset is adequate for 80% of the jobs I do. But I’d prefer not to lose 20% of my clients. If you’re not running into the problems due to these missing features, then its simply a matter of time till you do.
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