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  • For Andrew Kramer AE and Audio Workflow

    Posted by Spidy2167 on July 7, 2008 at 2:10 pm

    Hi Andrew Kramer
    Hope you had a great 4th!!
    I have a question for you and I apologize if this has been asked before but I couldn’t find anything.
    I was watching your tutorials on After Effect Basic Training on VideoCopilot.net and was wondering,
    Did you make the audio that goes with it? If so, how did you make the audio that goes along with the opening? Did you use Designer FX for that? what software did edit the audio in? Was it After Effects? Sound Booth or Premier Pro?
    Also what is your workflow for making an opening? Do you do the motion graphics first then the audio or vice versa?
    Sorry for all the question, you don’t have to go into any great explanation on all this, but just your basic workflow would be great! Thanks and have a good day.
    Mark.

    Adam Rose esq. replied 17 years, 10 months ago 3 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Adam Rose esq.

    July 7, 2008 at 7:06 pm

    he uses sony vegas for the audio

    audio first, then video

  • Spidy2167

    July 7, 2008 at 7:26 pm

    Great, one more thing, Does he use Vegas Video to edit video? you know for the other stuff that he does not do with AE.
    Thanks.

  • Adam Rose esq.

    July 7, 2008 at 9:23 pm

    not to my knowledge. He uses Vegas 4 for the audio, ie an old version.

    think it might be PPro….

    I use vegas myself, for both, so was interested in his workflow too.

  • Spidy2167

    July 9, 2008 at 12:15 pm

    Hi Adam, Since you edit and do audio in Vegas. Do you go back in forth with AE and Vegas.
    I’m starting on a project that has pictures and video. I want to do the opening in AE and then bring that into Vegas for some video edit, then so some short stuff with AE a few more times along the time line. But I was curious if working between AE and PPro would be easier.

  • Danny Hays

    July 10, 2008 at 12:07 am

    Hello, After effects and PPRO are both Adobe and are easy to go between but Vegas is better with audio in my opinion. Vegas supports DX pluggins for audio effects and there’s a ton of them out there. Vegas will even do surroound sound. Vegas was audio only for versions one and two if I remember right. Vegas 8 now has a console but it’s limited, Their nothing compaired to Protools, Nuendo and Sonar for audio though. Sonar even comes with some very good pluggins right out of the box. Vegas has no midi capabilities except for chacing or generating midi time code. But if you don’t use midi, Vegas does Video and audio very good all in one program. Hope this helps, Danny Hays

  • Adam Rose esq.

    July 10, 2008 at 7:44 am

    regarding protools vs vegas, here’s an extract from a DSE post on the subject:

    >>>>>>>>>
    Counting in my head, I can think of at least 31 Emmy Awards that have either been posted entirely in, or at least recorded with, Sony Vegas, and I believe there are more. My credits sheet alone is virtually *entirely* Vegas, even though I was one of the first artists in the world to record on ProTools (Windham Hill artists very tightly involved with the development of ProTools in the early days).

    My opinion is this:

    If you’re working in a network environment, you *need* to know ProTools. Not because it’s the best, it’s the worst, IMO. Nuendo, SONAR, Vegas, Logic…all much better tools, IMO. But…ProTools is a standard. Like most standards, it’s slow to reach the same level of functionality as the more nimble, smaller-group tools.
    Look at the Army….slow as hell to adopt change and flexibility. Merceneries can kick butt over what the Army can (and will) do. They’re more nimble.

    ‘Nother small example…
    Vegas was the first audio tool to do HD audio. Four years before ProTools could, and without specific hardware. You only needed hardware capable of 192/24bit, and there was a lot of hardware from Echo, MOTU, Apogee, etc long before ProTools could manage it. Turns out it didn’t matter much, but point is, others follow, but in so many cases, Vegas leads. Particularly in Audio. BTW, *many* of the functions you find standard in various audio apps spawned from Curtis Palmer and Monte Schmidt’s Sound Forge in the first days. They set the standard for DAW work. ”
    <<<<<<<< and >>>>>>>>
    Rod Stewart has only won one Grammy from an album recorded/produced/mastered in Vegas.
    Dio’s new album didn’t win any awards for being mixed in Vegas.
    “Last Samurai,” “SWAT,” “Hidalgo,” “Black Hawk Down,” and a few others failed to win Oscars, but it wasn’t because portions of those films were recorded/mixed in Vegas.
    Portions of National Treasure “Book of Secrets” probably won’t win an Oscar even though they were recorded in Vegas.
    I don’t think “Evan Almighty” or “Barnyard Animals” fared well with the Academy in spite of being posted in Vegas.
    Vegas is being used as an audio tool in a lot of places where you’d not expect to find it.
    <<<<<<<<< 😀

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