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  • 1920×1080 Title/Action Safe etc.

    Posted by Robin Spehar on October 27, 2014 at 8:53 pm

    Hey all,
    Hoping someone has some proper info on what actually happens when 1920×1080 footage is broadcast to todays 16×9 flatscreen TVs. I’ve heard mixed opinions on this all the way from “you never really know how it will be cropped from set to set” to “All of todays 16×9 flatscreens show 100% of the image edge to edge”.

    I’ve noticed that some of todays client styleguides have type riding the Action Safe guide (rather than the Title Safe) and bugs that are out of title safe and the like. So, does anyone know for sure? I’m talking specifically about 16×9 modern flatscreen TVs.
    Thanks in advance!

    Steve Brame replied 11 years, 6 months ago 4 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Todd Kopriva

    October 27, 2014 at 10:24 pm

    > “All of todays 16×9 flatscreens show 100% of the image edge to edge”

    That is false.

    Yes, it’s true that the bezel is typically much smaller on modern televisions than on older televisions, but some pixels are still obscured by many current televisions.

    > I’ve noticed that some of todays client styleguides…

    If you’re meeting your client’s guidelines, then you’re probably OK, at least in terms of getting paid and not having your work rejected for revisions.

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  • Robin Spehar

    October 27, 2014 at 11:42 pm

    Thanks for the response, Todd!
    One last question just to put this into perspective. If I were to build a 1920×1080 comp that had a 140pixel frame on the inside edge around the whole image, I would have pretty good odds of a good many of those 140 pixels displaying on modern 16×9 sets (especially sets that don’t have big nasty bezels on them). Thanks again!
    RObin

  • Jp Pelc

    October 28, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    Well I do more work for the web than for TV, but as far as I understand there is still no universal rule for what will happen. While you can be sure that at this point the large majority of home viewers have 16×9 TV’s you cannot be sure that they all have brand new models from trustworthy manufacturers such as Sony, LG, etc, nor do they have it calibrated properly. I have seen plenty of TV’s at friends’ houses that clearly have zoomed in on the image, and no matter what settings I change for them it cannot properly fill the screen without being stretched. Not to mention many people may have changed their TV settings to crop or zoom a certain way when watching something like a 4×3 DVD, and maybe have never changed it back. Not to mention there are cases like mine where my work goes through a local affiliate that JUST got HD broadcasting, so I have a hard time trusting that their broadcasting equipment/techniques are proper.

    TL;DR It’s still not safe to put critical information outside the safe zone

  • Steve Brame

    October 28, 2014 at 10:50 pm

    Standards??? We don’t need no stinking STANDARDS!!!

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